I definitely do not have a herd like some of our other esteemed members, BUT I wanted ONE Sulcata... then the breeder offered me a great deal on TWO, so naturally I bit on the offer... then about a month later, along comes TOM with an offer that COULD NOT BE REFUSED... needless to say I'm up to THREE & I've gone from a $10 30"x11"x4" enclosure to a $60 80"x24"x4" enclosure... and now I'm knocking out a wall and installing a 16'x6'x2.5' torto-mansion with an estimated cost of $1,700-$2,200!!!... and I'm NOT ruling out the notion of adding another tortoise to the family! They're like Doritos... once you start you can't stop!