Jacques, the Eastern Mud Turtle

[Jay Bagley]

Well, friends, I'm not sure what to think right now.
For the past 7- 10 days Jacques has quit eating. Not even SALMON tempts her.
She has stopped coming up to the front of her tank watching and interacting with us, and won't use her basking platform. She just hangs out in the dark area in the back of her tank, float-basking near her heater.
This is the behavior she had when she was developing the pneumonia after her near-drowning. She is still floating very level, though.
We have an appointment with her specialist vet next Tuesday, but they'll call us if anyone cancels so I can get her in sooner.

My fear is we all THOUGHT the pneumonia was totally cured before, but maybe it was only 99% cured. If that teeny little 1% grew and has come back again then the pneumonia may have recurred.
Although her treatment before was less costly than I had feared ($600 rather than over $1000, which is what it would have been for one of our cats!!! ) we are just NOT in a position to keep spending that kind of money.

Hubby and I have had several talks about this. He is entirely supportive, wants me to be happy and he loves Jacques too, BUT the expense may be too much for us to maintain. I know that, because the expense before was quite a hit for us.
When she goes in next Tuesday (April 10) I'm sure he'll do a blood count. Depending on what it shows and what he thinks is going on, she may or may not come back home with me.
It was hard to write that sentence just now.
i'm not sure what else to say.
I may not be on here much between now and then. I hate to leave you hanging because I know a lot of you really enjoy her too. It's just really, really hard to think about it.
I will post here FOR SURE the results of next Tuesday's appointment.

I love you all. I delight in your enjoyment of Jacques' antics!!!
And I am always so very grateful for the advice and support you so willingly share.
And if we're lucky, my fears are unfounded and we will have a happy solution!
Hugs to all.
Mooz

Sorry to hear things aren't going well again. Hopefully the vet will be able to give you some good news.

 

[Kristoff]

Bea, do you have Paypal? I only have sporadic income, but I’d like to send you something. I love what @*debora* suggested. You’re a friend, and friends help each other. And I love Jacques because you love her.

 

[no one]

Thank you Kristoff, that would be a easy true paypal. Haven't thought of paypal. I want to donate for Jacques aswell. So dear Bea do you have paypal?
Remember you didn't ask. So I think it is ok to accept. *smile*

 

[JoesMum]

Well, friends, I'm not sure what to think right now.
For the past 7- 10 days Jacques has quit eating. Not even SALMON tempts her.
She has stopped coming up to the front of her tank watching and interacting with us, and won't use her basking platform. She just hangs out in the dark area in the back of her tank, float-basking near her heater.
This is the behavior she had when she was developing the pneumonia after her near-drowning. She is still floating very level, though.
We have an appointment with her specialist vet next Tuesday, but they'll call us if anyone cancels so I can get her in sooner.

My fear is we all THOUGHT the pneumonia was totally cured before, but maybe it was only 99% cured. If that teeny little 1% grew and has come back again then the pneumonia may have recurred.
Although her treatment before was less costly than I had feared ($600 rather than over $1000, which is what it would have been for one of our cats!!! ) we are just NOT in a position to keep spending that kind of money.

Hubby and I have had several talks about this. He is entirely supportive, wants me to be happy and he loves Jacques too, BUT the expense may be too much for us to maintain. I know that, because the expense before was quite a hit for us.
When she goes in next Tuesday (April 10) I'm sure he'll do a blood count. Depending on what it shows and what he thinks is going on, she may or may not come back home with me.
It was hard to write that sentence just now.
i'm not sure what else to say.
I may not be on here much between now and then. I hate to leave you hanging because I know a lot of you really enjoy her too. It's just really, really hard to think about it.
I will post here FOR SURE the results of next Tuesday's appointment.

I love you all. I delight in your enjoyment of Jacques' antics!!!
And I am always so very grateful for the advice and support you so willingly share.
And if we're lucky, my fears are unfounded and we will have a happy solution!
Hugs to all.
Mooz

Oh Bea

I am so sorry to hear this. My fingers are firmly crossed for good news from the vet.

Massive, massive hugs from me [emoji22]

 

[CarolM]

Bea, do you have Paypal? I only have sporadic income, but I’d like to send you something. I love what @*debora* suggested. You’re a friend, and friends help each other. And I love Jacques because you love her.

Ditto

 

[Moozillion]

You have had our loving attention all along . . . It will continue now. I believe in the power even for the least among us.

Thank you so much, Orv![emoji2][emoji173]️
The love and support on this forum brings tears of gratitude to my eyes.
What an amazing group of people.[emoji173]️

 

[Moozillion]

Oh no Mooz. Big hug and keeping you all in my thoughts.[emoji8] [emoji8] [emoji8]

Thank you, Carol![emoji2][emoji173]️

And thank you, again, debora![emoji2][emoji173]️[emoji173]️

 

[Moozillion]

Dear, DEAR Lena!!![emoji173]️ and Carol!!![emoji173]️ and debora!!![emoji173]️
You are BEYOND KIND to offer to help!!!!!!
After a good night’s sleep I’ve gotten past the initial shock and am back in fighting form![emoji6]
Since I am semi-retired, hubby and I work VERY hard to live within our cash flow and stay out of our savings, since that’s for our older age. But I plan to suggest dipping into the savings, but paying it back within a set period of time.
And there’s got to be other options too: maybe the vet will accept monthly payments...
Thank you, THANK YOU ALL for your love, your support and your beautiful offer. [emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

 

[mark1]

the paypal is a good idea ....... is it possible for you to keep jaques outside in natural sunlight ? if you do decide to put jacques down , i would offer an alternative . if she is physically well and anorexia is her only problem at the moment , you could send her to me , i'd give it a try , i tend to be pretty lucky at that stuff , if i were to get lucky with her i'd send her back in the fall .......

 

[CarolM]

Dear, DEAR Lena!!![emoji173]️ and Carol!!![emoji173]️ and debora!!![emoji173]️
You are BEYOND KIND to offer to help!!!!!!
After a good night’s sleep I’ve gotten past the initial shock and am back in fighting form![emoji6]
Since I am semi-retired, hubby and I work VERY hard to live within our cash flow and stay out of our savings, since that’s for our older age. But I plan to suggest dipping into the savings, but paying it back within a set period of time.
And there’s got to be other options too: maybe the vet will accept monthly payments...
Thank you, THANK YOU ALL for your love, your support and your beautiful offer. [emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

Always Bea, We are all here for you and routing for Jacques.

 

[Moozillion]

the paypal is a good idea ....... is it possible for you to keep jaques outside in natural sunlight ? if you do decide to put jacques down , i would offer an alternative . if she is physically well and anorexia is her only problem at the moment , you could send her to me , i'd give it a try , i tend to be pretty lucky at that stuff , if i were to get lucky with her i'd send her back in the fall .......

OMG, MARK1!!!!!!! You are SO INCREDIBLY KIND!!!!!!!![emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

The problem is not the anorexia. The concern is that the anorexia is a symptom of the pneumonia recurring.
I hope to have that answer next Tuesday.

 

[Moozillion]

the paypal is a good idea ....... is it possible for you to keep jaques outside in natural sunlight ? if you do decide to put jacques down , i would offer an alternative . if she is physically well and anorexia is her only problem at the moment , you could send her to me , i'd give it a try , i tend to be pretty lucky at that stuff , if i were to get lucky with her i'd send her back in the fall .......

I’ve actually thought about putting her outside in natural sunlight.
I bought a kiddie pool a while back but have never used it.
I’m thinking of putting it half in the sun and half inthe shade with plenty of hiding places.
Other suggestions?

 

[Moozillion]

Well, I should have known!
I didn’t even need to bring up the topic to hubby: HE brought it up! He feels that we’ll be able to figure out a way to cover Jacques’ medical bills if it comes to another hospitalization.
To me, THAT IS LOVE!!!!
The idea of romantic love with candle light dinners and exotic getaways is all well and good, but TRUE love is working together for the things we care about.
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[Kristoff]

Well, I should have known!
I didn’t even need to bring up the topic to hubby: HE brought it up! He feels that we’ll be able to figure out a way to cover Jacques’ medical bills if it comes to another hospitalization.
To me, THAT IS LOVE!!!!
The idea of romantic love with candle light dinners and exotic getaways is all well and good, but TRUE love is working together for the things we care about.
[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

I’m glad to hear this, Bea. You and hubby are great. My offer still stands whenever you need it. [emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

 

[Maro2Bear]

I posted this on @Moozillion ’s other CDR thread, but maybe a GoFundMe account could be created to help offset Jacque’s medical expenses. Jacque has a great following... need to make more folks aware beyond this a Forum, local TV stations always carry personal interest stories, Kathy Lee & Hoda, Ellen, Steve Harvey all love these type of man helping animal stories!

Get the word out! #HelpJacques

 

[Moozillion]

I’m glad to hear this, Bea. You and hubby are great. My offer still stands whenever you need it. [emoji173]️[emoji173]️[emoji173]️

Thank you SO much, Lena!!![emoji2][emoji173]️[emoji173]️

 

[Moozillion]

I posted this on @Moozillion ’s other CDR thread, but maybe a GoFundMe account could be created to help offset Jacque’s medical expenses. Jacque has a great following... need to make more folks aware beyond this a Forum, local TV stations always carry personal interest stories, Kathy Lee & Hoda, Ellen, Steve Harvey all love these type of man helping animal stories!

Get the word out! #HelpJacques

I really, REALLY do not feel comfortable with a lot of publicity.
I KNOW your heart is in the right place, but really: hubby and I are firmly together on getting Jacques what she needs.
So PLEASE don’t do this.
I KNOW YOU MEAN NOTHING BUT THE BEST, but that sort of thing is SO NOT my style. [emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️

 

[mark1]

i would have no problem giving jacques a try if you got to that point , from pics she looks fairly healthy ......... if you put her outside be aware of critters that eat turtles , a well constructed chicken wire frame over the pool should be sufficient ........

 

[Pearly]

I really, REALLY do not feel comfortable with a lot of publicity.
I KNOW your heart is in the right place, but really: hubby and I are firmly together on getting Jacques what she needs.
So PLEASE don’t do this.
I KNOW YOU MEAN NOTHING BUT THE BEST, but that sort of thing is SO NOT my style. [emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️

Oh, Bea, I just had few minutes to catch up on Jacques thread. I so completely understand your hesitance to accept help from people or being put in a center of attention. I’m this same way. And, I think I LOVE YOUR HUSBAND!!!! For what he did! Yes! That is LOVE! He is putting the needs of your heart before his own. Wow!!!! What a great guy he must be!!! I’ll be thinking of you and Jacques and waiting for your updates[emoji173]️

 

[Maro2Bear]

I really, REALLY do not feel comfortable with a lot of publicity.
I KNOW your heart is in the right place, but really: hubby and I are firmly together on getting Jacques what she needs.
So PLEASE don’t do this.
I KNOW YOU MEAN NOTHING BUT THE BEST, but that sort of thing is SO NOT my style. [emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️[emoji33][emoji173]️

Right... he’s such a cute turtle...just wanting to help.. with ideas.