pacific chelonians
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I was doing some reading on old forum posts and found this form about the endangered species act I have linked it below and copied and paste it I was wondering if this is true or false I was unaware that this was legal not that I am ever going to partake just a curious question
What the ESA law can be translated to is this --- The animals in question that are listed as Threatened or Endangered cannot be sent over state lines for commercial purposes with a transaction of money. You can however travel from your home state and come to said state ( lets say Florida for the EXPO which is thankfully only 11 months away!) and buy this animal(s) and take it(them) back to your home state without the intent to resell. This cannot be a pre- arranged purchase. In other words, you cannot call someone in Florida, from California and say " hey, make sure those hamiltoni are eating because I am on my way to buy them from you at the EXPO next week and hand you 1000 US dollars for three of them. That would be a no no. But you can however, come to Florida, without making prior arrangements with the seller/breeder, and buy these turtles. Money is only changing hands in the state where the turtles are. Bringing them back to your home state is within ESA guidelines as long as you do not plan to sell them.
You can also apply for a CBW ( captive bred wildlife permit ) for ESA species which will allow you to buy them from whomever you please in the United States. Hopefully the person offering ESA animals will be willing to help you with this process. If they are not, I would possibly steer clear because their animals may have a questionable paper trail.
As our previous poster "Joel" states, C.I.T.E.S. only comes in to play when animals are going in or out of countries= International... ~
<-- that little guy represents all the people looking at hamiltoni at the EXPO in Daytona that were not sure what to do...
Why the Florida sales only turtles?
Ive seen a few species of turtles offered for sale to FL residents only. Im curious as to why this is. The endangered US natives I can sort of see due to using it as a cover for wild collection, but for some of the other species Ive seen listed like this they arent US natives. They are captive br...
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What the ESA law can be translated to is this --- The animals in question that are listed as Threatened or Endangered cannot be sent over state lines for commercial purposes with a transaction of money. You can however travel from your home state and come to said state ( lets say Florida for the EXPO which is thankfully only 11 months away!) and buy this animal(s) and take it(them) back to your home state without the intent to resell. This cannot be a pre- arranged purchase. In other words, you cannot call someone in Florida, from California and say " hey, make sure those hamiltoni are eating because I am on my way to buy them from you at the EXPO next week and hand you 1000 US dollars for three of them. That would be a no no. But you can however, come to Florida, without making prior arrangements with the seller/breeder, and buy these turtles. Money is only changing hands in the state where the turtles are. Bringing them back to your home state is within ESA guidelines as long as you do not plan to sell them.
You can also apply for a CBW ( captive bred wildlife permit ) for ESA species which will allow you to buy them from whomever you please in the United States. Hopefully the person offering ESA animals will be willing to help you with this process. If they are not, I would possibly steer clear because their animals may have a questionable paper trail.
As our previous poster "Joel" states, C.I.T.E.S. only comes in to play when animals are going in or out of countries= International... ~
<-- that little guy represents all the people looking at hamiltoni at the EXPO in Daytona that were not sure what to do...