wellington said:Baoh said:Jay, your female is worth around $900 to $1100 on the open market because of her capability to add reproductive capacity to a group. Your male is best sold locally, though. Selling them separately will be easier for you to generate the funds for the Aldabra. You may be able to get $300 for him from a newish buyer, but $200 is a safer bet to count on in terms of a projection for what you can get for him because normal male sulcatas are exceedingly easy to get a hold of.
The shells are decent, which is good and will help.
People are not paying attention to the details you have posted and probably are not especially well versed in getting tortoises sold (several own one tortoise and neither buy nor sell at all and some refuse to ship when they do sell, so their range severely limits their options). For instance, people repeatedly commented on your specific lack of room complaint for the sulcata burrow and then translate that into a lack of adequate room for a baby Aldabra. You spoke of the burrow, a subterranean structure specific to the one situation and wholly inapplicable to the other. Not a concern for an Aldabra. The counterpoints raised are not taking this into account because of a lack of attention and should be dismissed.
With the above said, unless you find extremely motivated buyers, you will probably have to add $200 to $350 to whatever cash you get for those two in order to complete an Aldabra purchase. However, that is a far cry from claims of "$2000" on top of them unless you are getting your Aldabra gold-plated.
Not lack of room for a burrow, but just to lay eggs properly! Second, as already mentioned, wanting a female, that doesn't translate into a hatchling or even a yearly, heck possibly not even into a 5 year old! As for just owning pets, no shipping, etc, etc, don't have to do something to know something! BTW, haven't heard how much room is actually available. Is there a house back home? Property? You don't need to answer/explain, just making a point.
My animals dig nests and will occasionally drop fertile or infertile eggs on the ground as well. That need not have anything to do with room.
He explicitly states no room for a burrow in his first post.
Upon reading the post again, he said he wants a young Aldabra and that a female is preferred. Not that a female is a requirement. Also, a hatchling female is still a female. It does not become female later. You simply may not know until later (unless you wish to have it scoped). Regardless, not a mandated requirement by the poster.
The poster has not shared information in this thread from which we could conclude that there is not enough room to house a single young Aldabra that the poster has said he is seeking.
wellington said:I don't think we assume that. In this thread, they don't have room for a sulcata to properly lay her eggs, and sounds like they are housed inside. That tells me they don't have the proper room for an Aldabra.
They also stated they wanted a female, which doesn't translate to a hatchling or yearling. I don't think you need an acre for one Aldabra or even two Sullies, however, I do think if they are going to breed, they should have proper outdoor room to do so. I am all for getting what you want, as long as you can afford to do right by it. It may have all been read different, if they didn't request wanting a female and thinking that two Sullies would be a even trade for an Aldabra, when there are soooo many Sullies cheap to whoever will take them in just about every city. It's all about making sure they know what they are getting into and what is required. Will never really know the experience one has, so error on the side of the op, so the tort doesn't suffer.
No room for egg laying is not mentioned.
No room for a burrow is mentioned.
The poster stated he wanted a young Aldabra and that a female is preferred. The poster did not state that he only would accept a young female Aldabra.
There is no indication there is insufficient room outdoors in which to breed his pair of sulcatas. There is an indication that there is insufficient room for a burrow.
I can give away a tortoise. I can also sell it for thousands of dollars. I am not forced to give it away instead of selling it because I am capable of giving it away easily.
Yvonne G said:Well, I give them away for free...males and females. Granted, the females are pretty scarce, and I only get two or three a year, but they're adopted out for free when I get them in.
Jay...I hope you are able to get your Aldabran tortoise. I have a couple of them, and am kicking myself for not "humanizing" them while they were growing up. It is taking me a long time to teach them to get over being leery of me. They are 13 years old now, and are starting to be like puppy dogs...following me and any visitors around their pen, begging for treats.
You also have stipulations which you adhere to that you have mentioned in the past. These are simply choices you make to impart restrictions you believe in for the benefit of the animal as you perceive it. That does not restrict the actual ability to sell. It restricts the choice to sell under a given set of self-imposed conditions.