What happened to this tort?

[WithLisa]

Unlikely Egyptian cos it's as flat as a pancake

Maybe because of wrong husbandry?

 

[glaerey]

Maybe because of wrong husbandry?

Egyptian being kept as pancake??

 

[glaerey]

@HermanniChris

can you help on the id?

 

[Yvonne G]

@HermanniChris

 

[tortdad]

Did you get an X-ray to see if there were stones? You've got to fix the why so she doesn't prolapse again.

 

[glaerey]

Nope, Doc said unlikely as she is defecating well.

 

[dmmj]

Doesn't. Look Egyptian to me, more like a hermani.

 

[HermanniChris]

Certainly not an Egyptian tortoise. It's a Greek, T. g. terrestris. Any tortoise can grow flat almost as sort of a reverse pyramiding. Can happen when hydration is achieved but proper diet is lacking. I've seen this more commonly with Burmese star tortoises.

 

[Yvonne G]

Nope, Doc said unlikely as she is defecating well.

Stones don't interfere with defecation, as they originate in either the kidneys or bladder. Might be egg bound too. Or have a terribly large infestation of parasites. Once the suture comes out, the prolapse most probably will re-occur unless you can figure out why it happened in the first place.

 

[glaerey]

Doc did a fecal float and found large amount of pathogen.

 

[tortdad]

Doc did a fecal float and found large amount of pathogen.

Good, you've got the 'why' figured out now. I hope your tort gets better soon.

 

[glaerey]

Good, you've got the 'why' figured out now. I hope your tort gets better soon.

Thanks for the well wish.

 

[glaerey]

just an update. it has been more than 2 week since the ordeal and things have been looking good so far with the sutures removed last sunday.

 

[glaerey]

Certainly not an Egyptian tortoise. It's a Greek, T. g. terrestris. Any tortoise can grow flat almost as sort of a reverse pyramiding. Can happen when hydration is achieved but proper diet is lacking. I've seen this more commonly with Burmese star tortoises.

thanks for the identification Chris! I am curious as I have another smaller greek with different appearances.
1. the smaller guy is 4 toed but the bigger one has 5.
2. bigger guy has a movable hinge on the plastron (signature of a greek) but not the smaller guy. plastron markings are also different.
3. bigger guy has a black beak.
why is that so?

 

[HermanniChris]

It's many times locality differences and just simply individuality. Even within an existing given population there is heavy variation in markings and pigment. Just like people, they can be different from one another.

 

[bouaboua]

thanks for the identification Chris! I am curious as I have another smaller greek with different appearances.
1. the smaller guy is 4 toed but the bigger one has 5.
2. bigger guy has a movable hinge on the plastron (signature of a greek) but not the smaller guy. plastron markings are also different.View attachment 131302 View attachment 131303
3. bigger guy has a black beak.
why is that so?

Both torts are beautiful. Just beautiful!!!!