What are these, please

[MikeCow1]

Anyone have any idea what these could be?

 

[Yvonne G]

I think the second one is horse weed. If you'll show me the flower when its fully opened, I may be able to tell you the first one.

 

[MikeCow1]

I think the second one is horse weed. If you'll show me the flower when its fully opened, I may be able to tell you the first one.

Here it is with a flower. Notice, too, that the stem is covered in spines kind of like a nettle.