Sapphire needs one however I can do it. ๐ค That'll take a bit of brain storming to set it up though. I've seen him walk up a wall or be a tortoise wedgie in his furniture. I've seen him hanging by a claw from his hardware cloth lid ๐ญ maybe it'll keep him busy in a way where I don't find him in a ridiculous predicament. Upside down tortoises are pretty much screwed.