I am very sorry if I or we upset you. It certainly wasn’t intended. Like everyone here I try to help people do what’s best for their tortoise. Sometimes the typed word is not read in the way it was intended and for that I am sorry.Bottom of the page. Listen, I think you are right, they do need a slightly raised enclosure to keep in the heat, but to make people feel bad about their enclosure when everything is right for the tortoise is a shame. I’ve asked to delete my account because of this post because I don’t want to be seen as the bad guy. But it just shows the tortoise protection group is recommended these types of enclosures over vivs. Please try to be nice to people because otherwise it takes away the pleasure from tortoise keeping. Before I got Olive I already planned to add sheets to the sides a bit to add extra heat (but not completely closed) against my tortoise breeder recommended because I also believe her info was out of date. Thank you Tom, once again you have been very helpful x