Identification

[dl450]

Any idea what kind of tort this is he was given to me by a friend he is three years old which worries me because how small he is (I can give specifics on setup and his diet/lights/humidity if you want them) he said he was a hermanns so I've been caring for him for the past week like that but I'm concerned for his size. Let me know if you have any ideas just want the best for this little fella (I revived him because the friend left for college and couldn't take him)

 

[BILBO-03]

I think it's Hermans tortoise I may be wrong though. Someone more experienced will chime in

 

[cmacusa3]

I think it's Hermans tortoise I may be wrong though. Someone more experienced will chime in

I agree, also as @Tom stated in another thread something looks off with the shell. Possibly MBD, what do you know about the past with the first owner

 

[dl450]

I agree, also as @Tom stated in another thread something looks off with the shell. Possibly MBD, what do you know about the past with the first owner

Not much I also have two leopard geckos so he knew I liked reptiles so he gave it to me I do know he kept him on a coil uvb bulb so I'm planning on changing that but everything seems normal

 

[Rylatts]

Is it just me or does it look very similar to my Spur-thighed tortoise (Testudo graeca) Mine's only a one year old, judging from the picture of him in your hand i would say they are about the same size too, which is strange. Mine weighs nearly 300grams.


Hope this helps

 

[JoesMum]

If in doubt summon @HermanniChris

 

[dl450]

Is it just me or does it look very similar to my Spur-thighed tortoise (Testudo graeca) Mine's only a one year old, judging from the picture of him in your hand i would say they are about the same size too, which is strange. Mine weighs nearly 300grams.


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I do see a large resemblance and he is adorable

 

[Raymo2477]

Your tortoise is a Hermann's, not a Greek (Spur Thighed).

 

[EmmaE]

looks like a dalmatian hermanns tortoise to me! but i could be wrong of course

 

[Shaif]

Western Hermann.

 

[ohio]

I'd say it's an Eastern Hermanns. Could be a cross breed. Defiantly a Hermann.

 

[Shaif]

Chris Leone has a very nice webpage addressing this. Check Hermannihaven.com

Click Hermanni tab at top.

Gives excellent info with pics of carapace and plastron.

This is a Western--note the 4th vertebral scute and the mushroom cloud/keyhole on the 5th.

But the shape is abnormal. That's why people are concerned about MBD.

 

[ohio]

Yes check with Hermannichris he is the expert around here, But just by using his id photos you should come to the conclusion that it's an eastern due to the fact that it's dull and not pronounced on the fifth scute. Kinda looks like my easterns. Western seem to have colors that stand out more. Would love to hear what the expert says. Either way a Hermanns.

 

[Digger&Blinky]

He looks like a herman tortoise he cant be three years old

 

[GBtortoises]

It's an Eastern Hermann's, Testudo hermanni boettgeri.

 

[Shaif]

Thank you, Gary. Sorry for the mistake.
Ohio is correct.

 

[ohio]

It's all good we're all just trying to help out. I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination. We all love our torts here. That's why we come here for advice.

 

[Gillian M]

Welcome to the forum.

A gorgeous little tort. GOD bless.

 

[Robber]

Agreed on Eastern Hermann's.

The shell abnormality could be a harmless incubation/developmental abnormality or a result of bad husbandry; hard to tell from pictures.

If it was kept with only a coil bulb, it may have been too cool. Prolonged temps that are too low leads to diminished activity and appetite and could account for very minimal growth(it is quite small if it is in fact 3 y.o.).

 

[HermanniChris]

It's an eastern as Gary already stated. Westerns are much, much different.