So my hermann's tortoise has 4 vertebral scutes and is missing the 5th one that would be used to identify. The breeder had no idea if it's Western or Eastern just that his Hermann's are his smallest tortoises. He also breeds redfoot and Greek tortoises. Several of the scutes on the side are also a little oddly shaped. He/she walks fine and doesn't appear to have any problems. I picked him/her because when examining the hatchlings this one was very calm and focussed on eating even when being handled. Still is never bothered by anything as long as there's food. Michealangelo here is 14 months old.