1. Welcome! Are you interested in tortoises? If so, we invite you to join our community! Our community is the #1 place for tortoise keepers to talk online. Once you join you'll be able to post messages, upload pictures of your tortoise and enclosure, and discuss any tortoise topic with other tortoise keepers. Get started today!

2019 Hatchlings thread

Discussion in 'Hermanns tortoises' started by MIReptilian, Jul 18, 2019.

Help Support Tortoise Forums by donating:

  1. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan
    I'm starting this thread for owners of new Hermanni (late 2018 or 2019 hatchlings) to discuss experiences during their first year with their new tortoise(s).

    So who has recently required a newer hatchling or is waiting for a hatchling to arrive from a breeder?

    Jeff
    Turtulas-Len and HoosierTort like this.
  2. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan
    (These ads do not appear for registered members.)
    I'll start.. My name is Jeff and I live in southeastern, MI. As of today, I just ordered three Eastern Hermanns from Chris Leone and am eagerly awaiting their arrival 5 weeks from now.

    I think my biggest obstacles will be dealing with our weather here in MI which seems to change constantly and getting everything together in terms of enclosures and supplies.

    Since I placed my order with chris today, now I'm beginning to research all the supplies, substrate, thermometers, hydrometer, infrared heat guns, heating lamps, enclosure builds, food etc.

    Hope to give my new trio of torts the best life that I can.

    @JLMDVM and @method89 figured I would ask you to to come on over to this thread as I learned you're also waiting for new hatchlings...

    Thanks
    Jeff
    method89 likes this.
  3. method89

    method89 Active Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    May 15, 2019
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    198
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Malverne, NY
    Jeff, you move quick!

    I'm Jim, I live on Long Island, NY. I ordered my Western Hermanns from Chris as well. I'm due late August/ early September. The book Chris recommended to me was:

    Naturalistic keeping and breeding of Hermann´s Tortoises by Wolfgang Wegehaupt

    I've read it twice already and it really provides a ton of info for all Hermanns. I highly recommend.
    I plan on keeping him/her indoors for the first year in a cement tub and then building an outdoor enclosure next summer.


    Regards,

    Jim

    HoosierTort likes this.
  4. wccmog10

    wccmog10 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    223
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Georgia
    This is sounding like a tortoise anonymous group “hi I’m Wade, and I’m addicted tor tortoises”
  5. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan

    Ha ha ha. That cracked me up. It was suggested in my last thread on this board that we should get people together that have new hermanns hatchlings. That's what I'm attempting to do here. Lol
  6. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan

    Jim.. is that book on Amazon by chance? I'm going to grab it regardless. Thanks for the suggestion.
  7. method89

    method89 Active Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    May 15, 2019
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    198
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Malverne, NY
    yes its on amazon, bit pricey(everywhere, not just amazon) , but so incredibly worth it.
  8. JLMDVM

    JLMDVM Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2019
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    57
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Ohio
    Yep, saw your thoughts in the other thread and here I am. Also waiting on my Westerns from Chris. Continuing to gather supplies and learn everything I can while I await their arrival.
    Jennifer
    MIReptilian likes this.
  9. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan
    What size enclosures are you guys starting with for your babies. I'm getting 3, so I'm not sure what size to build and have no idea how fast they grow.
    .I was thinking about a 4x3x2 closed chamber built of plywood with a fold down glass door in the front. Looks like a "plywood aquarium" is a simple build and there are many examples on YouTube

    If I put the effort into a scratch build, I would want it to last for a few years though until I'm forced to build a larger chamber. I'm just not sure how fast these buggers grow.

    I might try and build it so its modular. Ie. Make the smaller chamber to start with and design it so it can mate up with a larger 8x3x2 chamber when they're bigger. This will give them 12x3 of indoor space when they're older as a winter accommodation. Hmmm. Decisions...
    El_Gumpo likes this.
  10. method89

    method89 Active Member Platinum Tortoise Club Tortoise Club

    Joined:
    May 15, 2019
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    198
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Malverne, NY
    I'll be going with 3x2 cement mixing tub. I will be leaving it open during the day and then putting a cover over it at night to retain humidity. I don't plan on having the tort hibernate this first year but I would like have it live almost exclusively outside the following year and would then let it hibernate after that. I'm trying to follow Chris's recommendations to a T. If you read his Greek care sheet it explains the ideas I mentioned above. The outside enclosure will be as big as the wife allows but I'm thinking a minimum of 4x4 for at least 2 years.
    El_Gumpo likes this.
  11. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan
    Yep. I read that. Chris knows his stuff too... my problem us that my basement (where they will be living) has an ambient temp of around 68. Too cold and not humid enough. I need to have a closed chamber for the winter months while they're inside. From April-late September they will be outside as soon as they're big enough.

    I found a guy in Toledo, Ohio (2 hours from me) that builds custom enclosures. I chatted with him and he gave me a damn good price. Cheaper than what it would cost me for supplies to build a nice enclosure like I had planned. I may buy one or more from him. We'll see...

    https://reptiles419.com
    JLMDVM likes this.
  12. Kipley

    Kipley Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2019
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Seattle, WA
    I just purchased a baby Hermanns in a cold wet climate (Seattle, WA area here), she arrived this past Wednesday She is a tiny little thing - I've contacted the seller for a birth date, but she is only 5.1 grams. At this size I'm keeping her in a 18 inch x 24 inch plastic tub.
    pjhdisfan likes this.
  13. Kipley

    Kipley Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2019
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Seattle, WA
    Obligatory photo of this tiny baby: 20190717_103041.jpeg
  14. DesertGirl

    DesertGirl Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    198
    Likes Received:
    192
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Fabulous Las Vegas, NV
    Hi. I’m Kaye. I love tortoises.
    K1RK, El_Gumpo and MIReptilian like this.
  15. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan

    Congrats! She is a cute little thing. Keep checking back here as several other members will be getting theirs soon. Me included :)
    Kipley likes this.
  16. MIReptilian

    MIReptilian Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Metamora, Michigan

    Disregard what I said in this post. Reading the reviews on this guy (Reptiles 419)and having him completely ignore my inquiries for the last several days proves that he has major communication issues and this is in line with what many of his reviews have said.
    My mistake. This post was premature.
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2019
  17. Kipley

    Kipley Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2019
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location (City and/or State):
    Seattle, WA
    Just an update on the little girl I received a week ago yesterday. She was 5.1 grams on arrival, and 8.6 grams when I weighed her last night. So despite the fact that she spends the majority of the day buried in her substrate, she is growing and gaining weight!

    I refer to her as "she" and paid a few dollars extra to choose her gender. Apparently this breeder incubates some clutches at a higher temp to get females, and others a lower temp to get males. Not sure of how accurate this is, but for the next few years until she is old enough to visually sex, I will refer to her as a female.
    MIReptilian and El_Gumpo like this.
  18. El_Gumpo

    El_Gumpo New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location (City and/or State):
    San Diego
    Hi,

    I purchased some western hermann’s from Chris around the 4th of July. I’m excited and I can’t wait to meet the little ones. They are from the Mallorca locale
  19. SweetGreekTorts

    SweetGreekTorts Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2018
    Messages:
    896
    Likes Received:
    1,233
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location (City and/or State):
    Tucson, AZ
    There's never any guarantee with incubation temperatures and I think it's very dishonest of a breeder to charge more for it.

    I've purchased 15 hatchlings last year to raise for my breeding programs. So far, 4 of them have turned out to be the opposite gender I had expected, but that's the gamble with buying hatchlings. Gender cannot be confirmed until the babies grow large enough. My others are not yet big enough to confirm their genders, so I'm still waiting to see what I'll end up with in my program.
    El_Gumpo, Kipley and MIReptilian like this.
  20. DesertGirl

    DesertGirl Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    198
    Likes Received:
    192
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location (City and/or State):
    Fabulous Las Vegas, NV
    Aren’t there blood tests that can sex them like we do for parrots? Is the gender even set when hatched? Can they “change”?
    Kipley likes this.
Similar Threads: 2019 Hatchlings
Forum Title Date
Hermanns tortoises Identifying Hermann subspecies in hatchlings Nov 23, 2018
Hermanns tortoises Hatchlings Feb 7, 2017
Hermanns tortoises Dalmatian vs. Eastern for hatchlings? Dec 24, 2013
Hermanns tortoises Knowing what sex they are as hatchlings Jul 13, 2013
Hermanns tortoises hermann tortoise hatchlings Aug 31, 2012

Share This Page