Wango Mango

[N2TORTS]

 

[Anyfoot]

What. They look gorgeous. Come on, let's see a plastron shot of the first photo.

 

[Careym13]

Nice!!!!

 

[wellington]

Wango Mango? I like the yellow, nice

 

[spud's_mum]

Wow!

 

[N2TORTS]

What. They look gorgeous. Come on, let's see a plastron shot of the first photo.

Brand new Babes (you can see egg sac still healing) as well as the egg tooth in the first set of pics.

 

[Anyfoot]

Brand new Babes (you can see egg sac still healing) as well as the egg tooth in the first set of pics.

That's stunning Jeff.
Why the yellow colors all of a sudden?
Do you have some different females, or a different male and female combo, or do you just get different colors from the same females from time to time?
Think that's one of my favorite colors.

 

[N2TORTS]

That's stunning Jeff.
Why the yellow colors all of a sudden?
Do you have some different females, or a different male and female combo, or do you just get different colors from the same females from time to time?
Think that's one of my favorite colors.

Thanks for the kuddo's ......very pretty tort indeed ~There are sibling's too!..... More to come

There is much diversity at the Cove’ thus different mating’s matched to particular animals will result in unique offspring. Sure there is a “name-stake” for individuals and “clues”, but this does not mean every single tort within that species /sub-species will look the same or carry those exact attributes. An example would be the so called “marbled plastron” or supposed to be the color of … sure those are clues but not always the case and examples will vary among individuals as mentioned above If mating’s with different parents are used and their particular genetic markers . When results of same mating's with same parents the offspring will stay pretty darn constant, but tweak the gene line a bit EX: different male or female used and you have different outcomes. Same thing with “Cherry Red” I actually have cherries that are peach/mango orange in color and yes hints of yellow scales. So it goes against what most would interrupt as what the norm should be or look like. The one fun thing when playing with genetics. It gets even more interesting when dealing with the Hypo’s.

Here is a Adult Male Cherry Head ........notice his plastron? Not too Marbled eh ?



Yellow on Cherries







Adult Female Cherry ....More Mango Orange than "Cherry Red"


Almost black with pink....Adult Female Cherry





another pinky Adult



ya want Marbled? ....

 

[Anyfoot]

Thanks for the kuddo's ......very pretty tort indeed ~There are sibling's too!..... More to come

There is much diversity at the Cove’ thus different mating’s matched to particular animals will result in unique offspring. Sure there is a “name-stake” for individuals and “clues”, but this does not mean every single tort within that species /sub-species will look the same or carry those exact attributes. An example would be the so called “marbled plastron” or supposed to be the color of … sure those are clues but not always the case and examples will vary among individuals as mentioned above If mating’s with different parents are used and their particular genetic markers . When results of same mating's with same parents the offspring will stay pretty darn constant, but tweak the gene line a bit EX: different male or female used and you have different outcomes. Same thing with “Cherry Red” I actually have cherries that are peach/mango orange in color and yes hints of yellow scales. So it goes against what most would interrupt as what the norm should be or look like. The one fun thing when playing with genetics. It gets even more interesting when dealing with the Hypo’s.

Here is a Adult Male Cherry Head ........notice his plastron? Not too Marbled eh ?



Yellow on Cherries







Adult Female Cherry ....More Mango Orange than "Cherry Red"


Almost black with pink....Adult Female Cherry





another pinky Adult



ya want Marbled? ....

Thanks for that Jeff. Love to see all your torts, but it's more educational for me when you show us the adults, gives me a picture of how you do it. Excellent stuff.
Something I've never asked any breeder but often wondered. Is it a big 'NO NO' to let siblings interbreed. For example, if I took 3 of those yellow colored off you(ended up as 1.2) and used as a breeding group would I end up with misfits due to exact same bloodline?

 

[N2TORTS]

Thanks for that Jeff. Love to see all your torts, but it's more educational for me when you show us the adults, gives me a picture of how you do it. Excellent stuff.
Something I've never asked any breeder but often wondered. Is it a big 'NO NO' to let siblings interbreed. For example, if I took 3 of those yellow colored off you(ended up as 1.2) and used as a breeding group would I end up with misfits due to exact same bloodline?

This can lead to a very interesting debate among folks (I hope not) and misunderstanding of what inbreeding really is. Inbreeding tends to reduce the number of alleles (genes) available within the population/herd. Such concentration of alleles can be viewed as positive, if they are one’s which a person is trying to target Ex: colors, or negative if they are bad…EX: external deformities – internal health problems ect. . The genetic effect of inbreeding is that it makes more pairs of genes homozygous. This means that there will be no recessives in the genetic makeup of the breed unless those are targeted. By increasing the degree of homozygosity, inbreeding increases the chances that recessive genes will come together and be homozygous. It is very important to understand that inbreeding can increase the chances that they will come together but not always the case. Inbreeding does not uncover dominant genes because they always show themselves. However, it increases the degree of homozygosity among the dominant genes one was targeting. There is also Line breeding….This is a less intensive form of inbreeding.The object of line breeding is to keep the offspring related to an outstanding animal, usually a male, which had desired characteristics one was targeting.

and finally ......Yes there will/can be a percentage somewhere along the line.