True dat, Kyle!
Yvonne G said:True dat, Kyle!
harris said:Yvonne G said:True dat, Kyle!
Oh man, that made me laugh!!
TommyZ said:Hello just last week I posted a similar thread for everyone to look at my tortoise shell I also have reversed pyramyding. It was explained to me that those raised lines are actually healthy growth which is a result of a well hydrated tortoise it was explained to me that if you left him out and dry for a couple of days those lines would recede a little bit. Take a look here mine look the same.
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Will said:Keep that long fiber up and good hydration and "protein" is not an issue, but that is for another thread.
..........Will, The term "kill" in herpetculture vocabulary is commonly used and does not imply any disrespect. Zoo keepers i met many, many, light years ago when i was new at keeping herps used this fraze and I too was kinda shocked about it. I could not tell by the pic if there was a air-flow system. Sorry, "he's just an exsightatable boy"*w.zevone. emysbreederWill said:That's extreme, to say they are being killed in a chamber.
The "tom" closed chamber system includes a full air exchange and time outside the chamber, in fresh air and sun.
It's not a closed system in the sense of one of those glass balls with algae and tiny shrimp, or even what aquarist call "closed system".
The closed chambers mentioned so frequently here on TFO, regard maintaining high humidity, not a lack of air exchange.
The individuals shown by the primary poster look good, even the scales on the front legs are normal.
Will
A lot of folks are now interested in finding out what causes this front leg scale lifting. vicmikeh said:emysbreeder said:The shell growth you call reversed pyramiding is normal. But you are going to kill them with that "closed chamber" They do need high humidity but it must have an air exchange. It still needs to have air flow. Change that quick! Vic
Thank for the input Vic! There are plenty of gaps between the plexi for fresh air, there is also small computer fan along the ceiling circulating the air inside.
The scales in the front feet are a concern from what I read, but so far they are all pointing nicely flat down even though they seem on the long side.
emysbreeder said:..........Will, The term "kill" in herpetculture vocabulary is commonly used and does not imply any disrespect. Zoo keepers i met many, many, light years ago when i was new at keeping herps used this fraze and I too was kinda shocked about it. I could not tell by the pic if there was a air-flow system. Sorry, "he's just an exsightatable boy"*w.zevone. emysbreederWill said:That's extreme, to say they are being killed in a chamber.
The "tom" closed chamber system includes a full air exchange and time outside the chamber, in fresh air and sun.
It's not a closed system in the sense of one of those glass balls with algae and tiny shrimp, or even what aquarist call "closed system".
The closed chambers mentioned so frequently here on TFO, regard maintaining high humidity, not a lack of air exchange.
The individuals shown by the primary poster look good, even the scales on the front legs are normal.
Will
A lot of folks are now interested in finding out what causes this front leg scale lifting. vicmikeh said:emysbreeder said:The shell growth you call reversed pyramiding is normal. But you are going to kill them with that "closed chamber" They do need high humidity but it must have an air exchange. It still needs to have air flow. Change that quick! Vic
Thank for the input Vic! There are plenty of gaps between the plexi for fresh air, there is also small computer fan along the ceiling circulating the air inside.
The scales in the front feet are a concern from what I read, but so far they are all pointing nicely flat down even though they seem on the long side.
mikeh said:emysbreeder said:..........Will, The term "kill" in herpetculture vocabulary is commonly used and does not imply any disrespect. Zoo keepers i met many, many, light years ago when i was new at keeping herps used this fraze and I too was kinda shocked about it. I could not tell by the pic if there was a air-flow system. Sorry, "he's just an exsightatable boy"*w.zevone. emysbreederWill said:That's extreme, to say they are being killed in a chamber.
The "tom" closed chamber system includes a full air exchange and time outside the chamber, in fresh air and sun.
It's not a closed system in the sense of one of those glass balls with algae and tiny shrimp, or even what aquarist call "closed system".
The closed chambers mentioned so frequently here on TFO, regard maintaining high humidity, not a lack of air exchange.
The individuals shown by the primary poster look good, even the scales on the front legs are normal.
Will
A lot of folks are now interested in finding out what causes this front leg scale lifting. vicmikeh said:emysbreeder said:The shell growth you call reversed pyramiding is normal. But you are going to kill them with that "closed chamber" They do need high humidity but it must have an air exchange. It still needs to have air flow. Change that quick! Vic
Thank for the input Vic! There are plenty of gaps between the plexi for fresh air, there is also small computer fan along the ceiling circulating the air inside.
The scales in the front feet are a concern from what I read, but so far they are all pointing nicely flat down even though they seem on the long side.
I didn't take any offense to it. Any comments are appreciated. It did make me double check the air exchange.
I can see how the picture gives impression of no air exchange with all the condensation on plexi. This is due the chamber being in cool 70F dry basement. The big temp. difference between inside/outside and high humidity keeps constant heavy condensation on the inside of plexi. This condensation effect also aides greatly in removing carbon dioxide inside the chamber.
Mike
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