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They’re all beauties![emoji2]
I don’t know that much about the different sliders, myself. But my neighbor has a Cumberland Slider, and its plastron is totally yellow with no marks, so these might not be Cumberland’s, but don’t quote me on that! [emoji38]
 

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@Markw84 any thoughts on the type of sliders these are?

These turtles would best be called Cumberland Sliders. Trachemys scripta troostii This species has 3 subspecies and they are among the most common turtles available in the world. The Yellow-bellied Slider Trachemys scripta scripta. The Red-eared Slider Trachemys scripta elegans. The Cumberland Slider Trachemys scripta troostii.

The problem is that there have been so many Red-Ears T s elegans commercially farmed and sold world-wide, and then released into the wild, there are all variations of inter-grades. The commercial farms producing 100,000+ turtles each years may often have elegans in with troostii and also with scripta. So we end up with turtles that have characteristics that are blended between the 3 subspecies.

These turtles seem to be pretty characteristic of T s troostii from what I can see. A good carapace shot, neck striping shot, and rear thigh striping shot would help, but they certainly appear more T s troostii and would be best called Cumberland Sliders.
 

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These turtles would best be called Cumberland Sliders. Trachemys scripta troostii This species has 3 subspecies and they are among the most common turtles available in the world. The Yellow-bellied Slider Trachemys scripta scripta. The Red-eared Slider Trachemys scripta elegans. The Cumberland Slider Trachemys scripta troostii.

The problem is that there have been so many Red-Ears T s elegans commercially farmed and sold world-wide, and then released into the wild, there are all variations of inter-grades. The commercial farms producing 100,000+ turtles each years may often have elegans in with troostii and also with scripta. So we end up with turtles that have characteristics that are blended between the 3 subspecies.

These turtles seem to be pretty characteristic of T s troostii from what I can see. A good carapace shot, neck striping shot, and rear thigh striping shot would help, but they certainly appear more T s troostii and would be best called Cumberland Sliders.
Thanks, Mark! I always learn from your posts!!! :):<3:
 

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These turtles would best be called Cumberland Sliders. Trachemys scripta troostii This species has 3 subspecies and they are among the most common turtles available in the world. The Yellow-bellied Slider Trachemys scripta scripta. The Red-eared Slider Trachemys scripta elegans. The Cumberland Slider Trachemys scripta troostii.

The problem is that there have been so many Red-Ears T s elegans commercially farmed and sold world-wide, and then released into the wild, there are all variations of inter-grades. The commercial farms producing 100,000+ turtles each years may often have elegans in with troostii and also with scripta. So we end up with turtles that have characteristics that are blended between the 3 subspecies.

These turtles seem to be pretty characteristic of T s troostii from what I can see. A good carapace shot, neck striping shot, and rear thigh striping shot would help, but they certainly appear more T s troostii and would be best called Cumberland Sliders.
Thanks, very interesting. That is what I figured they're just a bunch of Muts!
 

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I'll see if I can get some better pics
 

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Here's some more
 

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Yeah, I was noticing they don’t have red ears, which is why I asked. I wonder if they’re some other kind of Slider? I always thought the red ears were pretty dominant, and it seems odd for all 3 to not have red ears.
@Markw84 any thoughts on the type of sliders these are?
Thanks for bringing that up. I have thought about it before, and this has turned into a great informative convo for me
 

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OK. I'm surprised! Those pictures show a Yellow-bellied with what appears to be some Cumberland influence. Lots of Yellow-bellied traits there, but the pattern on the plastron shows Cumberland influence as well as the stripes on the neck and the "butt". Most people would probably call those Yellow-bellied Sliders Trachemys scripta scripta
 

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Cool thanks, Those were all pics of my female. As for my original post about fluttering I was concerned I had 4 boys. I'm now convinced I have 3 males and 1 female
 

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Well no doubt about it that I have atleast one male now. Earlier today he unveiled his, for lack of a better term, "Junk" for the first time I've ever seen.
 

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Do both male and female sliders flutter their nails, or just males?

It is usually a male thing...but hey, you know in life there are some chicks that are a little more assertive than the boring ones (I mean, the normal ones :))....females will flutter also, but usually will do it less as they age....
 

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It is usually a male thing...but hey, you know in life there are some chicks that are a little more assertive than the boring ones (I mean, the normal ones :))....females will flutter also, but usually will do it less as they age....
The one that I have that I suspect is female does flutter too. Glad to know she's not boring or as the kids say "basic" lol
 

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