Sedum and trumpet vine

[Nay]

Hi, I hate to repeat anything that has already been posted and Robyn, I found your list of plants. But I can't seem to find these two. They are blooming right now and wondered if I can feed them to my torts? Anyone? Sedum and trumpet vines. And/or send me a link to more good plants, I did find one good link on an old post, but again might have missed these two.
Thanks na

 

[katesgoey]

Hi Na,

I found trumpet vines on the "toxic" list - as well as sedum, BUT, on the africantortoise.com site, Steve Spritzer shows his Leopard torts eating sedum so that one I'm not sure about. You can review the lists at that site. I like the way they did these lists. Hope that helps.

 

[Crazy1]

Sedum is the large stonecrop genus of the Crassulaceae, representing about 400 species of leaf succulents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedum for info and pics

http://www.tortoisetrust.org/articles/plantfoods.html
http://www.austinsturtlepage.com/Care/cs-russian.htm
http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Mistypardaliscare.htm
http://www.turtlestuff.com/foodplantlists.html
http://startortoises.net/diet.html



The Trumpet vine or Trumpet creeper (Campsis radicans), also known as "Cow itch vine," is a large and vigorous woody vine of the family Bignoniaceae, notable for its showy trumpet-shaped flowers. Alternate scientific names have included Bignonia radicans and Tecoma radicans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpet_vine for pic and info

All lists I have seen list trumpet vine as poison
http://www.tortshack.com/articles/2005/04/properly_feedin.html
http://www.thetortoiseshop.com/basic_care/diet.phtml
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/7031/plantas-toxicas.htm
http://africantortoise.com/toxic_plants_and_flowers.htm lists the trumpet flower

 

[katesgoey]

Hi Robyn: I'm still a bit confused about Sedum - it is high in oxalates and Misty lists the following as "unsuitable": (http://www.chelonia.org/Articles/Mistypardaliscare.htm), Sedum morganianum,sedum frutescens, Crassulae spp.

So I'm reading this to mean it is not toxic, but not good for them because of the oxalates, is that right?

 

[Crazy1]

Sandy, you are correct Sedum is high in oxalates. Misty lists it as 'unsuitable" especially for hatchlings and gravid or breeding females. Like other foods with oxalates you would want to feed sparingly to any adults. There are about 40+ kinds of sedum. My philosophy is if I’m not sure I don't feed. Dandelions contain oxalates but in smaller quantities so I don’t feed dandelions in a large amount or with much frequency. And since oxalates bind with calcium to stop it’s absorption and cause oxalate salts which cause stones to form you would not want to feed a large amount of foods high in them especially to hatchlings or breeding females as it will decrease the calcium coverage on the eggs.

You can contact Misty Corton here [email protected] if you have specific questions regarding her information.

 

[katesgoey]

Sandy, you are correct Sedum is high in oxalates. Misty lists it as 'unsuitable" especially for hatchlings and gravid or breeding females. Like other foods with oxalates you would want to feed sparingly to any adults. There are about 40+ kinds of sedum. My philosophy is if I’m not sure I don't feed. Dandelions contain oxalates but in smaller quantities so I don’t feed dandelions in a large amount or with much frequency. And since oxalates bind with calcium to stop it’s absorption and cause oxalate salts which cause stones to form you would not want to feed a large amount of foods high in them especially to hatchlings or breeding females as it will decrease the calcium coverage on the eggs.

You can contact Misty Corton here [email protected] if you have specific questions regarding her information.

Thanks Robyn!

 

[Nay]

Hi, I may let they try the sedum,but not the trumpet. That article from Robyn's post had another nice site I hadn't seen for leopards.
Thanks for the replys and info.
Na