I saw a post on FB about TFO not being the "gold standard" of tortoise care, I mentioned that in a previous post here. The other two good posts I saw on FB show why these people should not own tortoises. 1. Feed them the root of romaine lettuce, that is where all the nutrients are. 2. Tortoises donʻt have ears, thatʻs why they donʻt come when you call them. Yeah, I got kicked off another FB group.