Just got off the phone a few mins ago with a guy in Kansas that has this Leo up for sale, little over 7" SCL (grown a little since this pic was taken). Ive got my fingers crossed its a female, but Im getting it for a fantastic price so even if its a male Its a good deal. If its a female its a FANTASTIC deal .Ill be happy either way. He/she is a might bit bumpy but definitely not the worst Ive seen lately compared to some of the ones Ive seen on kingsnake classifieds.