Well Jambies is 5ins. I coud not get that photo to down-lode. Also has slight depression in plaston,but
that might becaused by poor diet, ya think? will try to get the other photo here.
Thanks for the input!!!
ok juvenile male at 5" then an adult male then a female im sure you can see what i mean about yours being female by the shape of the anal scutes these are both proven adult breeders so no question about their sex.
terry