gummybearpoop said:I think most of them come from Petsmart....and the buyers either let them go or they escape their pens.
gummybearpoop said:I was supposed to go on the "rescue" trip but had some prior engagements.
I believe the tortoise is already spoken for.
Badgemash said:One of the girls at school works with the Phoenix Herpetological Society up in Scottsdale (http://www.phoenixherp.com/), and they work with the Game and Fish dept to rescue/rehome exotics in the area. I'll ask her in a few weeks (when I'm back at uni) if they got this one and if she'll be up for adoption.
-Devon
Criskers said:. After seeing him and the place with my own eyes, I was rather surprised he is given rescue tortoises. Chaps my hide.
emysemys said:Criskers said:. After seeing him and the place with my own eyes, I was rather surprised he is given rescue tortoises. Chaps my hide.
AND gives the good rescue places a bad name by association.
Jermosh said:PHS is a good rescue, I volunteer up there 2-3 times a month. They have received multiple awards from Arizona Fish and Game, have an active NGO status, and have various approved educational grants and activities. Do they have lots of sulcatas, yes tons, they get adopted and rescued on a constant basis. They are all healthy and active since I am the one who rakes their poo once a week(an love it!).
emysemys said:This kind of gives a little more credence to the fact that I've always said there are too many sulcatas in the rescues. Its hard to find homes for them. Tyler always shoots me down and says he'll take them. Has PHS ever tried to give them to Tyler? He says he'll take them all. I believe he's in Nevada, but that's practically right next door, right Tyler?
kyryah said:Tyler tried to get some at one point, and they told him they were $400-$800 apiece... I remember that from another thread.
So that is a fair "adoption" price?
Jermosh said:So what is the other option though? I mean if people give up a pet, and we cannot find a sanctuary or rescue for them. The only option I can see is euthanasia.
I see what you mean, I think breeding part is just part of having them in the sanctuary. It is what it is I guess. Until we have a decent way to neuter them, not sure what else to do then to euthanize any hatchlings. Selling the hatchlings is funding the rescue/sanctuary, I keep useing that term since we do have a lot of animals that are not for private collection, like albino cobras, gators, or varios venomous snakes/lizards that we trade with zoos or schools/R&D research companies studing venom. We send gila monsters in for diabetes cure with it venom, these are animals that are already displaced, so no taking them from the wild.emysemys said:Jermosh said:So what is the other option though? I mean if people give up a pet, and we cannot find a sanctuary or rescue for them. The only option I can see is euthanasia.
No, you've misunderstood me. I believe in taking them in and finding homes for them. I've said in the past that its hard to find homes for sulcatas. This usually comes up on the breeding sulcata threads. Tyler always refutes that statement saying there AREN'T too many sulcatas in the rescues. This little part of this thread shows that even a large rescue in Arizona is having trouble placing the sulcata tortoises. I was just giving Tyler a little jab to let him know that I'm not the only one with too many sulcatas.
emysemys said:No, you've misunderstood me. I believe in taking them in and finding homes for them. I've said in the past that its hard to find homes for sulcatas. This usually comes up on the breeding sulcata threads. Tyler always refutes that statement saying there AREN'T too many sulcatas in the rescues. This little part of this thread shows that even a large rescue in Arizona is having trouble placing the sulcata tortoises. I was just giving Tyler a little jab to let him know that I'm not the only one with too many sulcatas.