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Golden coin is C. aurocapitata right? Not trifasciata?!
For both species I would be better if you got a male :D
 

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great looking specimens and turtles
 

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You know which local form it is?
 

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I don't no. Should be able to get better ID on locale once it's larger.

You know, not trying to sound like an old fart or anything...but I remember being able to purchase Cuora trifasciata all day long for $75.00.
And C. flavomarginata for $15.00.
I certainly wish you all the best in keeping them going.
Man, what have the Chinese done to their fauna?
 

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You know, not trying to sound like an old fart or anything...but I remember being able to purchase Cuora trifasciata all day long for $75.00.
And C. flavomarginata for $15.00.
I certainly wish you all the best in keeping them going.
Man, what have the Chinese done to their fauna?
Me too! I remember working at a pet store in high school. Got all my Pyxis for 100 bucks a piece. And pancakes were 1500. Adult pardalis were 200 and well you know what those lists were like. China sure had pillaged a lot. This years CITES meeting will deliver quite a sad outcome. I believe 5-6 cuora are being labeled as functionally exctinct.
 

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I don't no. Should be able to get better ID on locale once it's larger.

Okay.. I heard a speech from the studbook leader of coura here and he said there are some different types of C. trifasciata. He really tries to get "clean" Babys of the subspecies but it's difficult. He also showed pictures of the breeding centers in Asia and says that's the problem start there because they mix everything..
but they don't breed them for pet keeping so it doesn't metter...
 

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Okay.. I heard a speech from the studbook leader of coura here and he said there are some different types of C. trifasciata. He really tries to get "clean" Babys of the subspecies but it's difficult. He also showed pictures of the breeding centers in Asia and says that's the problem start there because they mix everything..
but they don't breed them for pet keeping so it doesn't metter...
Yah it's a shame really. Most of the cuora really is unfortunately.
 

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Okay.. I heard a speech from the studbook leader of coura here and he said there are some different types of C. trifasciata. He really tries to get "clean" Babys of the subspecies but it's difficult. He also showed pictures of the breeding centers in Asia and says that's the problem start there because they mix everything..
but they don't breed them for pet keeping so it doesn't metter...

I've heard firsthand accounts stating the same thing. In fact, that is how some of the bogus 'new species' of Cuora got described a number of years ago.
Anyone remember C. criskarenannarum?
 

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I've heard firsthand accounts stating the same thing. In fact, that is how some of the bogus 'new species' of Cuora got described a number of years ago.
Anyone remember C. criskarenannarum?
Yep. Like pani are aurocaptiata actually. Which they do actually differ a bit. But if wild populations weren't so pillaged I'd imagine they would both be same species as kept breeding within its region. But so separated now that they develope into a new taxa.
 

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You know, not trying to sound like an old fart or anything...but I remember being able to purchase Cuora trifasciata all day long for $75.00.
And C. flavomarginata for $15.00.
I certainly wish you all the best in keeping them going.
Man, what have the Chinese done to their fauna?

I remember those days as well. Like purchasing a trio of P. megacephalum @ $35 apiece. Today the juvies go between $1500-$2000.

Good luck with the breeding project Kelly. I hope it's a success!
 

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I remember those days as well. Like purchasing a trio of P. megacephalum @ $35 apiece. Today the juvies go between $1500-$2000.

Good luck with the breeding project Kelly. I hope it's a success!

Haha! I forgot about megacephalum...no joke, the last one I got was given to me for FREE because it's tail had been stubbed by a tank-mate.
Yes, things have changed.
 

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added a hopeful male to the collection. It's on breeding loan right now. Won't be mature for a couple years though. Quite pretty turtles that are in peril.
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What a cutie! Congratulation. Don't have anything to add to this fascinating thread (bcs i'm ignorant in this stuff just love to hear other people talk and learn) but noticed pothos in that baby's container. I used to use this plant a lot due to the ease of growing it in harsh warm humid closed chamber environment. Pothos was really the only plant groeing beautiful and lush in there, but my babies loved to munch on it. Not that the'd ever experienced real hunger (I feed them WELL!), but they'd just mow it down in matter of few days. Then i read on this forum about potential harm from consuming it and that was the end of beautiful bushy terrarium for my babies:( What do you guys think about that? Does you new cute baby try to eat it?
 

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I had a chance to get some trifasciata a few years ago, but I talked myself out of it. I wouldn't do it unless I knew what they were genetically. Even though so few of the animals produced in the US go back to Asia, I still couldn't breed mutt Cuora.

I hope you can get to the bottom of this stuff and have success breeding them, man. They are a gorgeous species and need champions like you to do the tough husbandry and genetic work to make it all happen.
 
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