@Tom I hope you're right about Russian tortoises not being imported for much longer. and if things were a little different for me I would also love to start up a breeding colony of them. I think about it whenever I see female Russians advertised. I think about my female Russian, and my coworkers female Russian and how great it would be to breed them. I think the behavioral aspects of this issue are the ones that I have thought the least about, how stupid of me.