WHAT IS THIS???!!!!!!???!?!?

[sulcata101]

I have posted this before, I got some cool ideas of what this might be. I wanted to re post this to get some more opinions and ideas. When I found this, I was taking a walk at Richardson Grove State Park. Long story short, I saw a big ancient redwood tree with a tiny hole in the base of it, I felt like looking inside of it to see if there was any animal nest of some sort, instead I found this, a strange stone carving, I am thinking that this could be old, the tree was off the trail about 30 feet, so I don't think anybody walking from the trail could of tossed this in it. I am thinking that this could be from the native tribes that use to live there, such as the Sinkyone people, the Wailake people, and the kans'-cho-so-ring-I- be village.

 

[sissyofone]

I dont know what it is, But it sure is cool..

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[bigred]

dont know either

 

[sulcata101]

I have shown this to many people, one person said that it could be a fishing weight...

 

[Yvonne G]

I don't suppose there's any way to know for sure without having it tested. My gut instinct was to say it looks machine carved, hence not old.

 

[N2TORTS]

OHHHH MAN ....... I love stuff like this .... ok , first we need to determine what kind of stone it is ...( hard to do by the pictures) . Then we can start chasing some clues ..... I did find a link to the "people" you mention.....and you could be spot on. Again ...we need to identify the stone material "itself"

http://what-when-how.com/native-americans/wailaki-native-americans-of-california/


J~

 

[sulcata101]

OHHHH MAN ....... I love stuff like this .... ok , first we need to determine what kind of stone it is ...( hard to do by the pictures) . Then we can start chasing some clues ..... I did find a link to the "people" you mention.....and you could be spot on. Again ...we need to identify the stone material "itself"

http://what-when-how.com/native-americans/wailaki-native-americans-of-california/


J~
Thanks for the link, how can I tell what kink of rock/stone it made out of?

 

[N2TORTS]

OHHHH MAN ....... I love stuff like this .... ok , first we need to determine what kind of stone it is ...( hard to do by the pictures) . Then we can start chasing some clues ..... I did find a link to the "people" you mention.....and you could be spot on. Again ...we need to identify the stone material "itself"

http://what-when-how.com/native-americans/wailaki-native-americans-of-california/


J~
Thanks for the link, how can I tell what kink of rock/stone it made out of?

is it cold when you first pick it up ? .....thus , Stone or Ivory?
do you have a piece of quartz around ...Try a scratch test
Marble and granite are commonly used ...but there is no marble found were these folks were located .

 

[sulcata101]

Yes, it is cold when I pick it up, and when I scratch it with quartz, it shows io as white marks. What does that mean?

 

[N2TORTS]

Yes, it is cold when I pick it up, and when I scratch it with quartz, it shows io as white marks. What does that mean?

does it scratch the item itself or is it the quartz dust your seeing ..?

 

[sulcata101]

Yes, it is cold when I pick it up, and when I scratch it with quartz, it shows io as white marks. What does that mean?

does it scratch the item itself or is it the quartz dust your seeing ..?

Wow, I just noticed that its the quartz that is being scratched.

 

[N2TORTS]

Ahhh Haa.a.... were getting somewhere ... ok now grab some vinigar
Marble will effervesce ( bubble) in vinegar quartzite will not.

 

[sulcata101]

Here is a close up picture of the stone.

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Ahhh Haa.a.... were getting somewhere ... ok now grab some vinigar
Marble will effervesce ( bubble) in vinegar quartzite will not.

I don't have vinegar right now will anything else work?

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Wait! I found some! And it didn't bubble.

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I have to go, I'll be back to talk about it tonight though.

 

[Jabuticaba]

Hmmmm...Looks very interesting. Soapstone, maybe?

I have 2 ideas of what it could be: 1) It may be a modern netsuke bead or pendant that someone lost during a hike. 2) An ancient trade item from Poverty Point, Louisiana. The people from those cultures around the Mississippi did a lot of stone carving and travelled very long distances to trade.

I recommend sending the pictures to your local university's archeology department.


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[Jacqui]

Boy am I learning a lot from JD today.

 

[sulcata101]

Hmmmm...Looks very interesting. Soapstone, maybe?

I have 2 ideas of what it could be: 1) It may be a modern netsuke bead or pendant that someone lost during a hike. 2) An ancient trade item from Poverty Point, Louisiana. The people from those cultures around the Mississippi did a lot of stone carving and travelled very long distances to trade.

I recommend sending the pictures to your local university's archeology department.


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Thanks!

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I think it's on of these

http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/2001aprilbeads.htm

 

[Jabuticaba]

Hmmmm...Looks very interesting. Soapstone, maybe?

I have 2 ideas of what it could be: 1) It may be a modern netsuke bead or pendant that someone lost during a hike. 2) An ancient trade item from Poverty Point, Louisiana. The people from those cultures around the Mississippi did a lot of stone carving and travelled very long distances to trade.

I recommend sending the pictures to your local university's archeology department.

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Aussies: Dax, Vegas, & Cricket

Thanks!

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I think it's on of these

http://www.lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/2001aprilbeads.htm

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Yep, those are the ones I had in mind. Hope you find its origins.


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Aussies: Dax, Vegas, & Cricket

 

[N2TORTS]

Ahhh Haa.a.... were getting somewhere ... ok now grab some vinigar
Marble will effervesce ( bubble) in vinegar quartzite will not.

I don't have vinegar right now will anything else work?

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Wait! I found some! And it didn't bubble.


hydrochloric acid works too ..... ok no bubbles than it's not made of Marble.Marble fizzes with acid because it is composed of the mineral calcite (calcium carbonate - CaCO3) which reacts with acids to form the gas carbon dioxide and it is the release of the carbon dioxide gas (CO2) that causes the "fizzing" that is observed during the reaction.

 

[sulcata101]

Ahhh Haa.a.... were getting somewhere ... ok now grab some vinigar
Marble will effervesce ( bubble) in vinegar quartzite will not.

I don't have vinegar right now will anything else work?

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Wait! I found some! And it didn't bubble.


hydrochloric acid works too ..... ok no bubbles than it's not made of Marble.Marble fizzes with acid because it is composed of the mineral calcite (calcium carbonate - CaCO3) which reacts with acids to form the gas carbon dioxide and it is the release of the carbon dioxide gas (CO2) that causes the "fizzing" that is observed during the reaction.
What do you think it might be?

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[N2TORTS]

Hummm... ok .. so maybe Soapstone,,,,eh?
It’s very soft for “stone” why we see carvings from it .On the hardness scale ( 1-10 ) it ranks a #1 while a diamond #10. It is also non-porous water can not penetrate it so it will not stain, like granite or marble. Another reason I was trying the marble test.... Its mostly made from magnetite, dolomite, chlorite, and talc. Alkalis and acids, which affect granite, marble, and slate, will not affect Soapstone.
Let’s try to determine if the piece that you have in your collection is true Soapstone, scrape some material off from the bottom of the piece. If it is real Soapstone, these shavings will feel like talcum powder, slippery to the touch