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  1. Taco & Tortilla

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    Hello,

    I am still on my search for egyptian tortoises to adopt up in Canada and I came across tortoisemart.com. Now after going through their website, I feel I have finally found the light at the end of the tunnel. There were some red flags going off about their website that sounded a bit too good to be true, like no visits to see the tort you want to adopt just shipping only (I read the reasoning behind it and I understand why they choose to operate that way), nothing regarding CITE import/export permits, no health guarantee during the shipping phase and the big one for me, only reviews I can find are the positive reviews posted on the feedback section of the website yet no reviews on the tortoise shop page under the specific species.

    I have reached out via email on friday with some questions and haven't heard back from them. I know it's the weekend and don't expect a reply quite yet. The overall presentation looks great great I'm just concerned it's too good to be true (really don't want it to be). Has anyone on here adopted through this website and can they provide me with some feedback to substantiate their claims.

    PS they are located in Texas as far as the website tells me.

    Thanks for reading,
    Ryan & Rebecca
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    Based on everything you just described, I see a huge red flag. Places like that are not good. They don't breed tortoises, they buy them wholesale from other breeders and turn around to sell them. Every private breeder I know allows visits to customers. You also would need some kind of paperwork to take a tortoise from the United States into Canada. I do not recommend shipping because it takes longer to go through Customs so it would not be a quick overnight ordeal like it needs to be.

    Stick with a private breeder, not a tortoise farm. You'll get a much healthier tortoise that was started correctly, and is straight from the original source.
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    I agree, the only problem is many of the private breeders I have reached out to tell me they don't want to deal with the CITE export permit even if I tell them I want to drive and pick them up.
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    Then I would keep searching in Canada. There could be a breeder up there. I just know that tortoise farms are the worst places to buy from. The CITES paperwork is required for the tortoise, no matter who you purchase from in the United States.
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    Where are they at in Texas?
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    Website only says "Long Rifle Drive, Texas 76108"
    Phone # (608) 561-1033
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    That’s 20 miles from me... wonder if I could drop by... lol
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    I've never heard of them before, and looking through their website it seems shady. They aren't on Facebook. They don't list on Fauna Classifieds. Those are two places most breeders advertise what they have for sale.

    I Googled their street which says is in Dallas Fort Worth.

    There's an Instagram account for Tortoise Mart which identifies itself as a business, but it says location in San Antonio, TX.

    No BBB record of a "Tortoise Mart" in either Fort Worth or San Antonio.
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    Phone number search reveals it's a non-fixed VoIP (Skype or Google Voice), registered in Edgerton, WI.

    So the phone # they list isn't even a regular phone for a landline or mobile.
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    Starting to sound to good to be true lol. I have been keeping in touch with c and c, they aren't aware of any breeders in canada for egyptian. I goal was to actually acquire a breeding pair, through any legal means and maybe start a partnership with then lol, but they don't know that yet. They cover both costs of canada easy enough and maybe I can be a good central prairie hub! I just sent a message to SNS.
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    What the hell? That’s about as shady as you can get...
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    Thank you so much SweetGreekTorts, you've done more research in the little time I've typed a reply than I have done all day into these guys haha.
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    Any breeders in Canada had to import their tortoises, so they would definitely have resources where you could do that yourself for Egyptians. I'm sure lots of paperwork and fees involved, but it seems like you would be the first and only to have the species in your country [emoji106]
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    You're very welcome. Just don't want you to become a victim of a scam. Too many of them out there!
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    all that text and no link?
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    Company has no Facebook page. In this day and age, that's a huge red flag.
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    All that time to reply and couldn't Google it ;) here you go!

    https://tortoisemart.com/
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    Perhaps a scout mission is in order, for the sake of tortoises;)
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    Aldabra tortoises for $1800? Id bet money That's a scammer page.
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