Safe for Sulcata to eat??

SonyaBlaze

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Hello,

Hopefully someone will know if cabbage plant leaves are safe for a sulcata to eat?
I have other items for my little but want to be sure these leaves are a safe option as well. Thanks!
 

Hamiltondood

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its safe but should not be fed unless the tortoise needs some hydration. it has little to no nutrients and is mostly water. heres a list of greens/weeds that sulcatas can eat (written by tom):

Over and over I type up and answer diet questions and try to get people feeding the right stuff, but I find that the "norm" is grocery store food. Grocery store food is expensive, a hassle to obtain, and very low on the list of what is best for sulcatas.

For those who still just love the grocery store: Most stores are now selling little plastic pots of live, freshly sprouted, organic wheat grass. You can find it at many pet stores too. This is a great way to add grass to the diet of a young sulcata. Get your scissors, hold the pot over the food pile and chop away. Water it and keep the pot in a window sill, and in a few days, you'll have more. You might need several pots as your baby grows, or you can buy seed from one of our site sponsors (Thank you Carolina Pet Supply) and sprout even bigger trays of it yourself.

Some of you may find that your "grass eating" tortoise wants nothing to do with eating grass. This should surprise no one, since most breeders and most keepers never even attempt to feed actual grass to their grass eating tortoise babies. So sad! I can tell you from first hand experience with literally HUNDREDS of babies, they WILL eat it. It may take a month or more to slowly introduce it, but PLEASE, slowly introduce it.

Other items that are good for babies and young sulcatas:
Mulberry leaves
Grape vine leaves
Hibiscus leaves
African hibiscus leaves
Blue hibiscus leaves
Rose of Sharon leaves
Rose leaves
Geraniums
Gazanias
Lavatera
Pansies
Petunias
Hostas
Honeysuckle
Cape honeysuckle
Leaves and blooms from any squash plant, like pumpkin, cucumber, summer squash, etc...
Young spineless opuntia cactus pads

Weeds:
There are soooooooo many...
Dandelion
Mallow
Filaree
Smooth Sow thistle
Prickly Sow thistle
Milk thistle
Goat head weed
Cats ear
Nettles
Trefoil
Wild onion
Wild mustard
Wild Garlic
Clovers
Broadleaf plantain
Narrow leaf plantain
Chick weed
Hawksbit
Hensbit
Hawksbeard

Other good stuff:
"Testudo Seed Mix" from http://www.tortoisesupply.com/SeedMixes
Pasture mixes or other seeds from http://www.groworganic.com/seeds.html
Homegrown alfalfa
Mazuri Tortoise Chow
ZooMed Grassland Tortoise Food


When sulcatas get a little older and bigger, usually around 10-12" for me, they will start munching on plain, dry grass hay, all on their own. I like orchard grass hay the best for this, but I also used bermuda grass hay for years too. When they hit this stage, life gets MUCH easier. Just make sure you have drinking water readily available when they start eating hay, and consider soaking regularly if you are not 100% sure your tortoise is drinking enough, or if you live in a really dry area, like me.

I live in a desert and yet there is still green stuff all around me. I beg you to take a walk and learn about all the green stuff around you, INSTEAD of driving to the store again. Instead of a trip to the grocery store, take a trip to a local nursery for some weed IDs, and tips on growing your own stuff. What could be better than stepping out into your backyard and collecting all the free, healthy tortoise food you can carry? Think of the gas savings! Anyone who is a tortoise keeper, ought to be somewhat of a gardener too.

I beg of you... PLEASE stop the grocery store MADNESS!!! :D
 

SonyaBlaze

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its safe but should not be fed unless the tortoise needs some hydration. it has little to no nutrients and is mostly water. heres a list of greens/weeds that sulcatas can eat (written by tom):

Over and over I type up and answer diet questions and try to get people feeding the right stuff, but I find that the "norm" is grocery store food. Grocery store food is expensive, a hassle to obtain, and very low on the list of what is best for sulcatas.

For those who still just love the grocery store: Most stores are now selling little plastic pots of live, freshly sprouted, organic wheat grass. You can find it at many pet stores too. This is a great way to add grass to the diet of a young sulcata. Get your scissors, hold the pot over the food pile and chop away. Water it and keep the pot in a window sill, and in a few days, you'll have more. You might need several pots as your baby grows, or you can buy seed from one of our site sponsors (Thank you Carolina Pet Supply) and sprout even bigger trays of it yourself.

Some of you may find that your "grass eating" tortoise wants nothing to do with eating grass. This should surprise no one, since most breeders and most keepers never even attempt to feed actual grass to their grass eating tortoise babies. So sad! I can tell you from first hand experience with literally HUNDREDS of babies, they WILL eat it. It may take a month or more to slowly introduce it, but PLEASE, slowly introduce it.

Other items that are good for babies and young sulcatas:
Mulberry leaves
Grape vine leaves
Hibiscus leaves
African hibiscus leaves
Blue hibiscus leaves
Rose of Sharon leaves
Rose leaves
Geraniums
Gazanias
Lavatera
Pansies
Petunias
Hostas
Honeysuckle
Cape honeysuckle
Leaves and blooms from any squash plant, like pumpkin, cucumber, summer squash, etc...
Young spineless opuntia cactus pads

Weeds:
There are soooooooo many...
Dandelion
Mallow
Filaree
Smooth Sow thistle
Prickly Sow thistle
Milk thistle
Goat head weed
Cats ear
Nettles
Trefoil
Wild onion
Wild mustard
Wild Garlic
Clovers
Broadleaf plantain
Narrow leaf plantain
Chick weed
Hawksbit
Hensbit
Hawksbeard

Other good stuff:
"Testudo Seed Mix" from http://www.tortoisesupply.com/SeedMixes
Pasture mixes or other seeds from http://www.groworganic.com/seeds.html
Homegrown alfalfa
Mazuri Tortoise Chow
ZooMed Grassland Tortoise Food


When sulcatas get a little older and bigger, usually around 10-12" for me, they will start munching on plain, dry grass hay, all on their own. I like orchard grass hay the best for this, but I also used bermuda grass hay for years too. When they hit this stage, life gets MUCH easier. Just make sure you have drinking water readily available when they start eating hay, and consider soaking regularly if you are not 100% sure your tortoise is drinking enough, or if you live in a really dry area, like me.

I live in a desert and yet there is still green stuff all around me. I beg you to take a walk and learn about all the green stuff around you, INSTEAD of driving to the store again. Instead of a trip to the grocery store, take a trip to a local nursery for some weed IDs, and tips on growing your own stuff. What could be better than stepping out into your backyard and collecting all the free, healthy tortoise food you can carry? Think of the gas savings! Anyone who is a tortoise keeper, ought to be somewhat of a gardener too.

I beg of you... PLEASE stop the grocery store MADNESS!!! :D
I appreciate the information! The list helps a lot, thanks to Tom as well! I didn't see anything about lavender but read other places that lavender is good. Do you know if that is true?
 

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I appreciate the information! The list helps a lot, thanks to Tom as well! I didn't see anything about lavender but read other places that lavender is good. Do you know if that is true?

From my experience, most torts don’t care much for highly aromatic plants like most herbs. I can’t believe there is much nutritional value in lavender.

TortoiseTable says in moderation..
  • Common Name: Lavender
  • Latin Name: Lavandula spp.
  • Family Name: Labiatae
Safe ornamental plant which is fine planted in the tortoise enclosure and will do no harm if it is nibbled.
 

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Cabbage is fine once in a while. Just don't feed it to them every day.

I don't know about lavender.
 

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From my experience, most torts don’t care much for highly aromatic plants like most herbs. I can’t believe there is much nutritional value in lavender.

TortoiseTable says in moderation..
  • Common Name: Lavender
  • Latin Name: Lavandula spp.
  • Family Name: Labiatae
Safe ornamental plant which is fine planted in the tortoise enclosure and will do no harm if it is nibbled.
Thank you!!
 

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Nettles is on the weeds list above and I have a question. When I get anywhere near the plants, I get a stinging reaction, legs & hands. When my female sulcata (30 years old) got a plant mixed in with her grass, she started drooling and tried to get the sting off her tongue. Is there different types of the plant and I have the bad kind on my property?
 

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Nettles is on the weeds list above and I have a question. When I get anywhere near the plants, I get a stinging reaction, legs & hands. When my female sulcata (30 years old) got a plant mixed in with her grass, she started drooling and tried to get the sting off her tongue. Is there different types of the plant and I have the bad kind on my property?
Yes, there are different kinds of nettles; the stinging nettles you have are from completely different plant families than the dead nettles often recommended here.

That said, stinging nettles aren't a "bad" food. I'm surprised your tortoise felt the little stingers; the harder you crush the plant the less they sting. A tortoise jaw (seems like) should crush them no problem; my Russian has had them with no problem. If they are bothering your tortoise of course you want to keep her away from them, doesn't matter if they are a "good" plant or not.
 

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