RE: pyramiding with MBD
So... all those Tent Tortoises, Leopards and Stars that are found in the wild with some from of pyramiding... all... have MBD?
Please... do not say that it is species specific. They all pretty much have the same physiology. What might differ in those species is their habits and available habitat. Not all of those species have pyramiding which has to make you give it a little thought.
Again... if you are referring to the examples given both have a bone deficiency. I would like to thank you for the new word...osteopenia... that is probably the case in the 'normal' looking shell.
The only relationship pyramiding has to MBD is that a good majority of tortoises which have MBD are usually pyramided... not always. Not all pyramided tortoises have MBD. I don't point this out for arguments sake but for the sake of the owners of tortoises that do have some pyramiding to some extent or another.
So... all those Tent Tortoises, Leopards and Stars that are found in the wild with some from of pyramiding... all... have MBD?
Please... do not say that it is species specific. They all pretty much have the same physiology. What might differ in those species is their habits and available habitat. Not all of those species have pyramiding which has to make you give it a little thought.
Again... if you are referring to the examples given both have a bone deficiency. I would like to thank you for the new word...osteopenia... that is probably the case in the 'normal' looking shell.
The only relationship pyramiding has to MBD is that a good majority of tortoises which have MBD are usually pyramided... not always. Not all pyramided tortoises have MBD. I don't point this out for arguments sake but for the sake of the owners of tortoises that do have some pyramiding to some extent or another.
TortoiseMD said:-EJ said:One more time... you can have perfectly normal bone density and still have pyramiding. This is an important point that the new keeper needs to understand.
I doubt that you can have normal bone denisty while still having pyramiding, bone density has to do with calcium content of the bone (like osteoporosis, you diagnose it by measuring bone denisty and seeing that it is lower than normal bone)
in pyramiding as the posted pictures show, the new bone tissue is not of normal structure so it's density is less than a normal bone (or shell), that's why you see gaps and air pockets in the pyramiding shell ( so it's density is much less than a normal shell).