It's funny yesterday I was out in the yard trying to find something different to feed. I suddenly looked at a couple of old climber types that were covered with red blooms. It was like a light bulb went off. (yeah folks sometimes it takes me awhile). I had tried other roses before with no luck, but not ones from these bushes. Picked a handful for the Russians and they decided they liked them. Means today the Redfoots, Leopards, and Hingebacks get their chance.