Is it a hybrid?

[C.H.D Reptiles]

I have a box turtle that I don't know what it is! This is Shaggy he is a WC (LTC) adult that comes from a area where three-toed and eastern meet (both are native there) I've always thought he was a Blonde Phase Eastern but he might be a Eastern x Three-Toed hybrid. he has four toes, concave, red eyes. what do y'all think he is?

 

[Markw84]

Looks like he has 3 toes to me!! ??

 

[lisa127]

He looks mostly 3 toed, but it's possible for him to be an integrade of the two.

 

[lisa127]

Looks like he has 3 toes to me!! ??

Count again....lol

 

[Markw84]

Count again....lol

I am not a box turtle expert, but I've always thought 3 toed referred to Back feet???

 

[cmacusa3]

I'm going with Eastern but either way, I like it. He's welcome with me anytime.

 

[Yvonne G]

It's an older eastern box turtle. That fourth toe on the back foot shows up clearly in the second picture. Also, that's a pretty small tail for a male turtle.

 

[cmacusa3]

It's an older eastern box turtle. That fourth toe on the back foot shows up clearly in the second picture. Also, that's a pretty small tail for a male turtle.

Look at you with those good eyes on the tail, yes that is small.

 

[C.H.D Reptiles]

It's an older eastern box turtle. That fourth toe on the back foot shows up clearly in the second picture. Also, that's a pretty small tail for a male turtle.

Him next to a female (he's right females left) that female on the left had layed eggs so its proven!

Him next to a male (male left shaggy right)

 

[Yvonne G]

The male on the left's tail is much bigger than the one on the right. Sometimes with box turtles the only way you can tell is by where the cloaca is on the tail. Male cloaca is far away from the body. I wouldn't swear to it, but I'm goin' with female.

 

[lisa127]

I am not a box turtle expert, but I've always thought 3 toed referred to Back feet???

It does. The photo shows 4 toes on the back feet.

 

[lisa127]

It's an older eastern box turtle. That fourth toe on the back foot shows up clearly in the second picture. Also, that's a pretty small tail for a male turtle.

Does an eastern lose its black plastron with age? The plastron is the reason I did not say he was eastern.

 

[Eric Phillips]

Looks like a female EBT. I had an EBT with a light plastron with some shade just like this one. The very limited coloring on the head and legs favors a female also. Good looking Boxie!

 

[lisa127]

Looks like a female EBT. I had an EBT with a light plastron with some shade just like this one. The very limited coloring on the head and legs favors a female also. Good looking Boxie!

Wow, good to know! I've never seen an eastern with a light plastron! The shell pattern and 4 toes combined with light plastron was throwing me off with this one!

 

[Eric Phillips]

Wow, good to know! I've never seen an eastern with a light plastron! The shell pattern and 4 toes combined with light plastron was throwing me off with this one!

Yeah, it doesn't mean it still couldn't be an intergrade if you know what I mean It just favors more EBT.