Help need ID in Virginia

[Kara Kopek]

Well as you know I live in Va have all rescue torts and turtles.....still trying to make album.....well long story short drove 10 hours this weekend to pick up 2 rescue "Hermann's" supposedly 7 years of age one is in really bad shape. I'm bringing him to work with me tomorrow as I work at exotic vet....but honestly I know the female is Hermann's the male I'm unsure they were in deplorable conditions so I'm going to try to upload photos to be sure they are Hermann's and yes ones beak is awfully overgrown I'll be breaking out the dremel later....any help is greatly appreciate!!!!

 

[Kara Kopek]

Here's the male I believe

 

[Kara Kopek]

Female on right I believe!! Both starving and in need of major supplements I'm afraid first one may have severe MBD already!!!

 

[Yvonne G]

(I think your album problem is because your pictures are too big. I've reduced the pixels in these pictures so they'd show up here as pictures instead of as thumbnails, and your pixels were over 3900 x something. I reduced it to 1024x768 and they load quicker. I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet that's why you can't make an album)

 

[Kara Kopek]

Thank you so much my phone just doesn't always cooperate!!!!!!!!

 

[Kara Kopek]

Any help???

 

[Linhdan Nguyen]

Female on right I believe!! Both starving and in need of major supplements I'm afraid first one may have severe MBD already!!!

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The first one is a male, the last one is a female. I'm not good at all with hermann/greek ID but @HermanniChris is an expert!
Also, looks like theres a little bubble or something on the females cloaca. is that right?
Have you read our care sheet for both Hermanns and Greek tortoises yet?
Its great you rescue torts. I live in MD so i'm not too far from you.

 

[Kara Kopek]

The first one is a male, the last one is a female. I'm not good at all with hermann/greek ID but @HermanniChris is an expert!
Also, looks like theres a little bubble or something on the females cloaca. is that right?
Have you read our care sheet for both Hermanns and Greek tortoises yet?
Its great you rescue torts. I live in MD so i'm not too far from you.

Thank you for your response!! I actually already have a juvenile Hermann's that was dumped a few months ago but he's in good shape. These 2 just have me stumped.....but I will definitely contact @HermanniChris for sure!!! Thank you so much again!!!

 

[HermanniChris]

Ok, they are both certainly Hermann's and are the Dalmatian subspecies (Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis).

They look to be healthy aside from the fact that they've been grown improperly. Hopefully there is nothing underlying and it is just cosmetic.

 

[Kara Kopek]

Thank you so much for the information!!! They will have full workup but the conditions they were in were very poor so I suspect it's a bit of both!!!!!!

 

[Gillian M]

Your cute torts are in need of humidity. They are pyramiding. Please soak them daily in warm water.

And a warm welcome to the forum.

 

[Kara Kopek]

Yes I have been thank you. They were just picked up as rescues a few days ago. I have been soaking them daily. They are having full blood profiles and radiographs today. I do have many other rescue torts these are supposedly 7 years old. I really needed help getting a definitive id on species. Unfortunately most of the pyramiding is now cosmetic and permanent due to poor care prior to my rescuing them. But thank you for your help.

 

[Gillian M]

Yes I have been thank you. They were just picked up as rescues a few days ago. I have been soaking them daily. They are having full blood profiles and radiographs today. I do have many other rescue torts these are supposedly 7 years old. I really needed help getting a definitive id on species. Unfortunately most of the pyramiding is now cosmetic and permanent due to poor care prior to my rescuing them. But thank you for your help.

Sorry about that.

 

[Kara Kopek]

No thank you for your input I always appreciate anyone's input its okay