General Intro Tortoise Table - Need Advice etc

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Cliff

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I am new to the forum and I have recently purchased (on Sunday March 11th) two 6 month old cherryhead tortoises. First of all, care guides vary from website to website I have the following setup based on guides I have read. Pictures will be below.

- 60x30 wood tortoise table
- Left side (basking area) has a mercury vapour bulb exo terra 160W Solar Glo providing UVA/UVB, visual light, heat.
- Left side also contains a 100W intense basking light providing temperature of 90-95F
- Right side contains a reptiglo 5.0 UVB bulb
- Large sunken water dish
- Two log hides
- Cypress Mulch substrate 1-2"
- Fed collard greens, kale, butternut squash, zuchini, apples, mangoes (so far)
-Using calcium with D3 supplement
- Cuttlebone which one tortoise has chewed on

As I started to research tortoises 6 months ago, at first it looked like aquariums were the way to go. As I read more it seemed like aquariums were not good because they tend to bump into the glass etc. I then learned about the tortoise table and it looked like it was a good option. I read as much about humidity as I could, because I also have Red Eyed Tree Frogs which need high humidity. Most websites seem to say "just spray the substrate a few times a day and all is good." Well I live in Toronto, Canada in a high rise condo building and it is very dry at the moment. The summer usually get nice and hot with good humidity. Judging by my hygrometers I cannot even get passed 50%, and the substrate dries out super quick. To combat this until I come up with a solution, I have been soaking them in water once a night, and spraying the substrate furiously. Humidity equalizes with the rest of the room as science dictates. My torts have been hiding about 18-22 hours a day under the log. This could be a variety of reasons I imagine. Including, being new to the habitat, age, or too hot? Lights are too powerful? Not humid enough? My apartment is not the biggest, one bathroom, one bedroom, kitchen and living room. The torts are in the living room area. I would like to tackle the humidity issue now before it gets to be a problem. I am very open to suggestions and cost, time and effort will not be obstacles. If changing the enclosure will solve the problem for now than I will. When it warms up in the next couple of months they will be getting several hours of sunlight, heat and humidity from outside. However I appear to be stuck in a rut unless I am overanalyzing. I went through these growing pains with my red eyed tree frogs as it was frustrating to find out what is best for the torts. Comments are appreciated, thank you!
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It is often awkward to deal with this many issues in one post, but here goes...

The best and biggest piece of advice I can offer is to build a simple tent or box over the whole thing to help hold heat and humidity in. One of the big flaws of open tables is that they really don't work well in places where the indoor humidity is low.

In your case, you can make it as easy as making a lightweight support frame from heavy wire or PVC, and draping some vinyl over it (a shower curtain would work nicely.) Rig the lights up inside the tent, and done. A nicer version would be a Plexiglass box that sits over everything designed so the lighting hangs from it and some panels can be opened for access. (Yes, effectively, this turns it into a big aquarium- but think of it more as a mini-greenhouse.)

Adding live plants would help a LOT- they add humidity, freshen the air, offer hides, etc. Our own Terry O wrote a nice article about this- https://sites.google.com/site/tortoiselibrary/the-work-shop/planting-an-interesting-habitat

Hiding a lot is pretty normal. New may be an element, and it MAY be a bit bright in there, but mostly tortoises hide a lot. (The plants would help with the brightness as well.)

The posted diet is not bad, but can be improved in several ways. Try some of the articles and links about diet in the Tortoise Library (linked in my signature below).
 

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Hi Cliff:

Welcome to the Tortoise Forum!!
 

Cliff

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Thank you very much for the advice, I like the plexiglass idea.

slowpoke said:
welcome to the forum :) - Right side contains a reptiglo 5.0 UVB bulb .... that isnt a cfl is it ?

Yes, that is a CFL.
 
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