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SuIcata
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I'm constantly reading posts about tortoises who flip over in there enclosure. Since this never happened to my hatchlings and juveniles I wondered why this seems so common.
As in several posts already explained it is cause something is just not right.
May it be the wrong temperatures, the lack of security or maybe the lack of entertainment for the tort?
I really wanted to know whats the exact reason why tortoises flip over...
I personally think there are 2 things
1. Stuff they can climb
2. Something is off
I started some experiment's
FIRST I set up a small enclosure just bare nothing in it but with fine orchid bark as substrate and the right temperatures + humidity. Then I put a hatchling sulcata inside. After only 20 Minutes he tried climbing the walls at 26 Minutes he flipped himself over.
Then I switched to another hatchling and set him in the same enclosure after 30 Minutes again trying to climb the walls then flipping himself over.
SECOND Same enclosure setup but without proper lighting, heat and humidity.
Again they try to climb the walls what causes them to flip over.
THIRD same as #FIRST but with a hide water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. RIGHT TEMPERATURES Hatchling 1 after 4 hours no signs of wanting to climb walls and no flipping.
Hatchling 2 same.
FOURTH same as #SECOND but with a hide water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers.
WRONG TEMPERATURES
Hatchling 1 after 45 Minutes trying to climb walls then flipping over Hatchling 2 after 27 Minutes.
Right now it seemed to me that the flipping over had to do with Wrong temperatures
And no feel of security.
Then I placed a piece of wood (easy to climb) in the enclosure with the hide, water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. AND THE RIGHT TEMPERATURES.
Hatchling 1 after 2 hours: climbs wood flips himself over.
Hatchling 2 after 1 hour 5 Minutes trys climbing wood flips himself over.
Now same piece of wood same spot but with hide, water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. AND THE WRONG TEMPERATURES.
Hatchling 1 after 26 Minutes trying to climb flipping over.
Hatchling 2 same after 13 Minutes.
Now this brings me to the conclusion that
THE FLIPPING OVER HAS TO DO WITH
1. Lack of security for the tortoise
2. Wrong Temperature setup
3. Easy to climb stuff
What was especially interesting for me to see is that the hatchlings in the setup with proper lighting and temperatures + humidity + hides and sight barriers took way longer to actually flip over with the piece of wood.
Maybe u guys can tell me what u think about this and if u made different observations.
Thx for reading!
As in several posts already explained it is cause something is just not right.
May it be the wrong temperatures, the lack of security or maybe the lack of entertainment for the tort?
I really wanted to know whats the exact reason why tortoises flip over...
I personally think there are 2 things
1. Stuff they can climb
2. Something is off
I started some experiment's
FIRST I set up a small enclosure just bare nothing in it but with fine orchid bark as substrate and the right temperatures + humidity. Then I put a hatchling sulcata inside. After only 20 Minutes he tried climbing the walls at 26 Minutes he flipped himself over.
Then I switched to another hatchling and set him in the same enclosure after 30 Minutes again trying to climb the walls then flipping himself over.
SECOND Same enclosure setup but without proper lighting, heat and humidity.
Again they try to climb the walls what causes them to flip over.
THIRD same as #FIRST but with a hide water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. RIGHT TEMPERATURES Hatchling 1 after 4 hours no signs of wanting to climb walls and no flipping.
Hatchling 2 same.
FOURTH same as #SECOND but with a hide water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers.
WRONG TEMPERATURES
Hatchling 1 after 45 Minutes trying to climb walls then flipping over Hatchling 2 after 27 Minutes.
Right now it seemed to me that the flipping over had to do with Wrong temperatures
And no feel of security.
Then I placed a piece of wood (easy to climb) in the enclosure with the hide, water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. AND THE RIGHT TEMPERATURES.
Hatchling 1 after 2 hours: climbs wood flips himself over.
Hatchling 2 after 1 hour 5 Minutes trys climbing wood flips himself over.
Now same piece of wood same spot but with hide, water dish and lots of plants strategically placed to build sight barriers. AND THE WRONG TEMPERATURES.
Hatchling 1 after 26 Minutes trying to climb flipping over.
Hatchling 2 same after 13 Minutes.
Now this brings me to the conclusion that
THE FLIPPING OVER HAS TO DO WITH
1. Lack of security for the tortoise
2. Wrong Temperature setup
3. Easy to climb stuff
What was especially interesting for me to see is that the hatchlings in the setup with proper lighting and temperatures + humidity + hides and sight barriers took way longer to actually flip over with the piece of wood.
Maybe u guys can tell me what u think about this and if u made different observations.
Thx for reading!