Hi guys,
So, I've had my rad for a few days, and everything is going great so far. I've been seriously considering getting more of them so that I might be a rad breeder in my old age; sure, maybe I'm jumping the gun, but this is a species I very much enjoy so far, and I'm quite certain that enjoyment will grow. I've acquired my current little lady within my own state, which, to my knowledge, doesn't require a cbw permit. However, to purchase an animal outside the state, I would need one of these permits. I've read a recent posting in the general forum, however, that speaks to several individuals being unable to acquire new permits given some typical governmental overreach requiring costly legal proceedings to temporarily stop until the next dictator bureaucrat decides to do the same thing. So this got me wondering. Apologies if these questions are unoriginal.
Could a relative or friend in the state in which the animal is being sold purchase the animal as a legal resident of that state, then turn around and gift that animal to the resident of another state without a permit? Would this illicit a response from USFW if they were ever enlightened to the fact that this occurred? Certainly, it would be illegal if money changed hands at any point, but what if cash was exchanged, and there was no proof a transaction took place beyond the original seller? I'm not asking how to break the law. I'm merely asking how USFW could possibly stop this practice from taking place, given that it seems, to my mind at least, a big hole in the rule book if such is indeed the case.
If one day I have to move for a job, will I have to acquire a cbw to take my tortoises to my new home in a new state? Is transferring the animal over state lines legal in this case? What if I wanted to take one of my tortoises to another state and trade it for another in a breeder exchange? Is this not permitted? I've read conflicting info concerning these matters, and I've merely been seeking clarification.
T.G.
So, I've had my rad for a few days, and everything is going great so far. I've been seriously considering getting more of them so that I might be a rad breeder in my old age; sure, maybe I'm jumping the gun, but this is a species I very much enjoy so far, and I'm quite certain that enjoyment will grow. I've acquired my current little lady within my own state, which, to my knowledge, doesn't require a cbw permit. However, to purchase an animal outside the state, I would need one of these permits. I've read a recent posting in the general forum, however, that speaks to several individuals being unable to acquire new permits given some typical governmental overreach requiring costly legal proceedings to temporarily stop until the next dictator bureaucrat decides to do the same thing. So this got me wondering. Apologies if these questions are unoriginal.
Could a relative or friend in the state in which the animal is being sold purchase the animal as a legal resident of that state, then turn around and gift that animal to the resident of another state without a permit? Would this illicit a response from USFW if they were ever enlightened to the fact that this occurred? Certainly, it would be illegal if money changed hands at any point, but what if cash was exchanged, and there was no proof a transaction took place beyond the original seller? I'm not asking how to break the law. I'm merely asking how USFW could possibly stop this practice from taking place, given that it seems, to my mind at least, a big hole in the rule book if such is indeed the case.
If one day I have to move for a job, will I have to acquire a cbw to take my tortoises to my new home in a new state? Is transferring the animal over state lines legal in this case? What if I wanted to take one of my tortoises to another state and trade it for another in a breeder exchange? Is this not permitted? I've read conflicting info concerning these matters, and I've merely been seeking clarification.
T.G.