Yesterday evening I was watering my garden which is part of the turtle habitat and I saw a big, but not huge, bull snake. I'm not concerned about it hurting my box turtles because they are adults. Last summer I had one that would go into the turtle hide and sleep with them. It was a shock the first time I stuck my hand under to pull out a turtle and grabbed hold of a waxy feeling thing instead of a turtle shell. LOL Thankfully it wasn't a rattlesnake. However, do I need to be concerned about bull snakes hurting my 2" baby desert tortoises? The one I saw last night was not big enough to swallow one but I don't know if it might bite them. Later last night I had another, smaller bull snake on my patio. I did a Google search and couldn't come up with anything definitive.