Babcock or Pardalis?

[kimber_lee_314]

This girl is huge - anyone care to guess which kind she is? I don't know much about the Pardalis, but considering her size I would guess she might be one. Or maybe a hybrid?

 

[mike taylor]

Most here in the U.S. are mixed so your guess is as good as mine .

 

[wellington]

Post a pic if you can of the head and legs. The pardalis will have freckles on the head and legs.

 

[Tom]

What is the length and weight? There is no size reference in the pic. Nice looking girl in any case.

 

[kimber_lee_314]

I looked for the freckles and didn't see any, but she's kind of scared and closed up so I will try to get some more pics.

 

[kimber_lee_314]

What is the length and weight? There is no size reference in the pic. Nice looking girl in any case.

About 18 inches in length ...

 

[Tom]

...but she's kind of scared and closed up so I will try to get some more pics.

That is not typical of the SA leopards, but the size is.

 

[diamondbp]

I think she is either a mix or a large babcocki. Her shape seems different from this wild p.pardalis that's a similar sized female

 

[Neal]

The pattern doesn't look like a typical South African leopard, but the marginal flaring certainly does. I assume since you are in So Cal that this tortoise may have originated in So Cal? It wouldn't surprise me if it did have some significant SA genetics.

 

[DeanS]

The guy who now owns Aladar has a HUGE leopard...right around 120#. He showed me a picture on his phone...and although that's not the most reliable source...the scale between him and the brick planter next to him left little doubt! He's also the premier Leopcata breeder I know of...which isn't saying much. For the record, I neither condone nor condemn hybridizing the two!

Two posts in leopards...WTF!?!? I'm going back to sulcatas...where I belong!