Ageing tort

[bikerchicspain]

Hi guys can anyone give me an idea of how old Henri is please.And also is he a Testudo Graeca Ibera? As you can see his shell has some old scars from a possible dog attack, He pulled a nail off his foot thats why hes got the bandage on stop the wound getting dirty..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3497244264_250902cf79.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3497266960_5c03488dc8.jpg?v=0
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I need to get a bigger feeding bowl!!
Meet also mini
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3496471557_f8c5cf0a84.jpg?v=0

 

[Crazy1]

Hi I can't comment on Heni's age but he looks to me like an older fella. That is some bandage on his foot. I do hope it heals well. Keep an eye on it. A plastron shot of both would be a good thing to help ID them.
Mimi has a beautiful shell.

You might want to concider a tile or slate for an eating surface it would help keep the beak trimmed.

 

[bikerchicspain]

Thanxs Robyn, Does it matter what sort of tile it is whether its rough or smooth? I thought also That Henri was an older guy, Boy does he eat.. I will whizz a pic of the Plastron over when he wakes up, probably tomorrow. Mini was the one i rescued from a morrocan selling them on the market, she was full of parasites infections and ticks, she is such a lady.

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Heres a shot of plastron the first being Henri, and the second being Mini, Im pretty sure shes a Testudo graeca graeca..
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3504035667_b3e802f951.jpg?v=1241537940
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3504846612_36527ba936.jpg?v=1241537981
Thanx again Robyn.

 

[Crazy1]

Yvonne we will let Danny weigh in on these two. I believe Mini is Testudo graeca graeca but I seem to always mess up the origin of these guys. I use tile I bought at home depot just like you use for your floors. I do however try and buy the ones that are not really shiny and slippery.

 

[Stazz]

Aww I can't even see the pics of the old fella! Flickr doesn't work in Dubai, how stupid !

 

[bikerchicspain]

OH ,sorry didnt know how stupid is that,i though flickr was worldwide. i will see if i can get them ona any other way,

 

[Stazz]

Oh no no nooooo I wasnt saying stupid to you, Dubai has WEIRD ways and rules, don't worry heehee
I mean come one, why ban flickr, there is nothing wrong with it! I can understand certain things, but ayayay they are mental cases here

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Flickr IS worldwide They're just hiding things from us here lol, I have a flickr account....but can only use it back home lol

 

[egyptiandan]

Finally found this thread

Henri is a Moroccan greek, Testudo graeca graeca (not Tunisian)
Mini looks to be a Tunisian greek, Testudo graeca nabeulensis

Danny

 

[bikerchicspain]

Oh pooh. I got them the wrong way round best change my signature.. I always thought Mini was a moroccan as she doesnt have the distinct markings on the top of her shell, or could that be that not all of them develope until quite late on? Henri i just wasnt to sure as he is black due to the scars bless him, Do you think he is around the 10/15 year old mark?
Thanx Danny will send u photo of Miya when i get one.

 

[egyptiandan]

Henri is probably 50 to 60 years old

Not all Tunisians have the large black spots in the center of each scute, they do though have the black pattern of smudges or stripes instead of spots like most North African greeks.

Be glad to ID Miya for you

Danny

 

[bikerchicspain]

Blimey. hold on got to pick my bottom jaw up off the floor. He is an old fella!!. i Had no idea, Aww bless i will have to really spoil him now. How old can they get? ill send a pic of miya.probably got her wrong too,lOl, I was told she was about 3 years.. Thank you from a still stunned Yvonne..

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Stazz dont fret i knew what you meant, I meant also that not allowing Flickr in dubai was/is stupid. Will send pic over

 

[turtlemom]

50 - 60 years old! Wow, that is so cool and interesting.

Danny, can you share with us what details you can see on Henri that you use to 'age' him? I enjoy learning this stuff

Donna

 

[bikerchicspain]

Here you go Danny this is Miya. Hope the pics are useful.She is still recuperating so i didnt want to mess with her too much..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3652/3509715369_2cce622255_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3301/3510529922_11502ce272_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3509713283_d9682da315_m.jpg[hr]

Oh no no nooooo I wasnt saying stupid to you, Dubai has WEIRD ways and rules, don't worry heehee
I mean come one, why ban flickr, there is nothing wrong with it! I can understand certain things, but ayayay they are mental cases here

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Flickr IS worldwide They're just hiding things from us here lol, I have a flickr account....but can only use it back home lol

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Here you go stazz, this is my old fella.hope you can see him

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/titch/Mis%20documentos/Mis%20im%E1genes/Nueva%20carpeta/Foto0130.jpg

 

[egyptiandan]

Miya is a Tunisian greek, T.g.nabeulensis

Just his overall all condition Donna, the smoothness of his shell, length of spurs and scales.

Danny