Against all odds

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I thought I'd share with you our success story, against all odds, of our very poorly Hermann tortoise.

10 weeks ago we noticed that one of our tortoises (we have two) was off her food. After a few days we grew increasingly concerned so booked an appointment with a reptile vet specialist.

We were not prepared to hear what we heard.... Our tortoise not only had an abscess in its jaw, it had metabolic bone disease, calcium deficiency and herpes.
We felt pretty shocked at this news and couldn't quite believe how we had not picked up on any of these things. Our tortoise was extremely under weight and we were told to prepare ourselves for the worse.

An option the vet spoke to us about was inserting an NG tube. This was a feeding tube which was inserted into the stomach and taped to the top of the shell. There were concerns that our tortoise may not even survive the anaesthetic required for the insertion of the tube. Without hesitation and consideration to the cost, we made a decision to go ahead with the operation.

Fortunately our tortoise survived the operation, despite having to spend the evening at the vets.
I have to say I don't think we were quite prepared for the aftercare required following the insertion of the tube. We were initially required to syringe medication, food, water and supplements through the tube four times a day. This meant waking up even earlier then the usual 6am! It meant juggling our hectic work days to ensure that our poorly tortoise got the care it needed. We found our lives to be taken over with measuring up medication and patiently providing the much needed care that our tortoise required. Due to the diagnosis of herpes, we unfortunately had to separate our two tortoises :-( this meant setting up another vivarium.... Which meant more room and more costs!

Over the next four weeks we were almost daily clients at our vets, however we saw the infection from the abscess heal nicely and saw a slow but steady increase in our tortoises' weight. Over the weeks we were advised to reduce feeding via the tube, in order to encourage the tortoise to eat again. Initially things looked good, we saw our tortoise begin to eat small, but some amounts of food. We were made up :)

Unfortunately in the weeks to follow we saw a further deterioration in her condition. For some reason that we will never know, she displayed no interest in eating food.
After several more appointments with our vet, we agreed to return to the original feeding regime of four syringes per day. Once again, this demanded a lot of our time and patience. Our aim was to build her up to gain further weight and subsequently strength. After the fifth day of going back to this routine we were shocked to see that somehow, she managed to pull the feeding tube out!!

We proceeded back to the vets, understandably concerned that all of the hard work was now ruined. We were faced with being back to square one!
We made a decision to monitor our tortoise for the next three days before deciding whether we need to re-insert the tube, or consider to put our tortoise to sleep.

This was an anxious few days. Lots of questions were flying around in our heads.
To our amaze, on the third day of the tube being out, our tortoise began to eat food naturally. We ensured we tried lots of different types of food such as dandelion leafs, broccoli etc.

I am now pleased to say it has now been 10 days without the tube and we have had a weeks worth of natural eating from our tortoise. As you can imagine, we are over the moon with this. Our tortoise is doing so well and looking so much better. Part of me believes that the tortoise knew when she was ready to get rid of the tube.

So despite the cost, the patience and the time we committed, it was all worth it in the end! After these ten weeks we have learnt so much about our tortoise and the care or Hermann tortoises. We have dedicated a lot of love to this little one and most of all, we have now named her-Shelly!
Shelly has taught us so much about her and ourselves. She is continuing to strive and we pray that this is really the road to her recovery.
 

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Yvonne G

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That's a very heart-warming story. You and the tortoise are very lucky you have a vet that understands the tortoise's needs and was able to help you.

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Wow!!! You guys really go the extra mile for your animals- your tort is very lucky!
And welcome to the forum!!! :)
 

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What a fabulous ending.
You definitely demonstrate a willingness to do whatever is needed for your pet! Your tortoise is so lucky to be owned by you!
 

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So glad it worked out for you and you did the right thing by putting the cost and hard work aside and helping her. After all they don't ask for us to take them in. So glad you see that. Hope she continues to improve.
 

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Glad to hear it is turing out for the better. Just curious, did you get her in bad shape? Her shell deformation is a big hint at MBD.
 

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Thanks guys. Yes, unfortunately she didn't quite fill her shell at birth so we were aware of some health implications and we did everything we could to maintain her health. She went for years without any problems until very recently
 

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Some tortoises have an undeniable will to live, this one I think has it.
 

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its high time to change out the wood shaving substrate.
 

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I'm glad that your tortoise is okay, and it is wonderful that you care so much and worked so hard to mend things, BUT I think its important for you, and anyone reading who doesn't already know it, that you also CAUSED all these problems in the first place. I know you didn't mean to, and I'm sure you were doing your best with the info you had, but these things don't "just happen". MBD takes a long time to manifest. That is months or years with the wrong diet, not enough calcium and not enough UV, or some combination of the above. The stress of living as a pair no doubt compounded the matter, weakening the immune system.

As I said, I'm very happy that your tortoise seems like it will be okay now, but from your text, it does not seem like the right lessons have been learned here yet. And please don't feel like I'm pointing a finger from higher ground. I too have made many husbandry mistakes over the years, and have seen many others make mistakes too, but my fear here, and the reason for this post, is that it seems like you feel as if these things just unfortunately happened and you don't see your role in the issue. That would be tragic as you would make the same mistakes again. So, I am pointing this out not to berate you or make you feel bad, but to insure that you know WHY these things happened to your beloved tortoise, and so they don't happen again.
 

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Thanks guys. Yes, unfortunately she didn't quite fill her shell at birth so we were aware of some health implications and we did everything we could to maintain her health. She went for years without any problems until very recently
Not sure if torts are like geckos where if the parent does not revive proper calcium during Gravid period the offspring suffer. But I think some
Of these issues you have caused on accident, not to sound mean, but the info on husbandry care you were given has probably been wrong, and you just did not know any better, we normally make our animals sick, not that they themselves become sick for no apparent reason. The people here on the forum though are more than willing to help improve things.
 

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