If it does hAtch. , I will call it...jellybean.Sooooo cute. Hope it hatches!
Once in a while , you get a strange one. I'm glad yours hatched. I did hAtch a white cake once. My tortoises doctor took that one. Let you know how it goes.A few years ago one of my female Russian tortoises laid a super tiny egg. I did not think it would hatch, however, it did and it was the smallest Russian hatchling I have ever seen. I named her Minnie and I kept her.
If this egg is fertile, I feel horrible. Ihop, hopped the fence and MAY have been with daddy! Will never happen again. I fixed the fence. I'm not happy about it. Shes a real she devil!It's amazing the way that egg sizes and incubation periods vary in pancake tortoises. I have gotten small eggs and have realised that the hatchlings have nicer colours then the others but they are incredibly small!!
Once in a while , you get a strange one. I'm glad yours hatched. I did hAtch a white cake once. My tortoises doctor took that one. Let you know how it goes.
Good question, I don't know. Lol. I have never weighted one. I can tell you this. The egg is at least two time smaller then the average egg. It's a little bigger then a jellybean. I will always post my cakes, only wish more people had them. Merry Christmas to all!Hi AFQ, what does that smaller egg weigh? the smallest I had that hatched was about 16 grams, and that neonate was not a 'doer'. Always good to see you here sharing the bounty of your interest with 'cakes, the most interesting tortoises alive.
Me too ! But for selfish reasons so I could get another female ! Smile !Good question, I don't know. Lol. I have never weighted one. I can tell you this. The egg is at least two time smaller then the average egg. It's a little bigger then a jellybean. I will always post my cakes, only wish more people had them. Merry Christmas to all!
For this thread and hopefully some PM's received, this longer explanation of "doer" will make sense.Good question, I don't know. Lol. I have never weighted one. I can tell you this. The egg is at least two time smaller then the average egg. It's a little bigger then a jellybean. I will always post my cakes, only wish more people had them. Merry Christmas to all!
I knew as soon as I found the egg, it may not hatch. Thank you for the Infor.For this thread and hopefully some PM's received, this longer explanation of "doer" will make sense.
'doer' is a semi slang word that describes animals that survive. Most vets will know what you mean, but it's not in any text book. The other POV is "failure to thrive", and that is in text books.
At least some species of chelonians very well studied do not exhibit age or reproductive senescence. For aging they are biologically immortal. That means they get killed by something they don't die of old age. To put a finer point on it, they die due to an outward cause before there body wears out.
For reproduction. Older females are bigger, and lay bigger eggs, and may lay more of them. Bigger eggs have more nutrition, and produce bigger neonates, which on average will have better survivability. They will be a little bit stronger, can eat slightly bigger things, are more temperature stable. All these bits and pieces of size advantage add up to better survivability.
Sometimes there is an odd egg from a large female that is small. For the most part though, bigger female means bigger eggs with better survivability.
All that does not mean that small eggs can not ultimately produce a 'doer' neonate. But the odds are not in favor of that outcome.
I say never give up on an egg or neonate, but sometimes it's not going to survive or be a doer. Sometimes you see failure the thrive.