Awesome. Mainly german breeders. I have heard of a few Italian breeders of a variety of South African species. Would love to make it over to the Hamm show maybe next year.Thank you yes she is big and was my first tropical tortoises :-D no I only will be there to pick some reserved animals up and to sell some animals when everything goes right. Also I have some meeting with Polska and Italy guys.. With which guys do you spoke?