after talkin to some ppl at the reptile show this past weekend .... i decided to hibernate my tortoises!!!!! The mob is now outside...i dug 12 5-6" holes outside (just to get them started) and threw mad amounts of hay over there entire pen! looks like they're ready for there crazy journey!!!! crossing my fingers everything goes fine. the guy said they should be fine in houston climate. so ...................... i guess ill have to wait now. ps. my tortoises really dont seem to drink water but i let them out like that today.