jackrat said:Now to get back on topic.When I trained my redfoots to tap dance and spin plates on sticks,I used a combination of sensory deprivation and fasting.I don't see anything unethical about it.
Nay said:Hi, this thread had me laughing quite a bit, (as I have a 15 yr old son ) I did think the dressing was a joke, but it sounds like it was real, and really if she was told,,,oh well...
I would be careful about inviting the boxies owner over , as if your son is anything like mine, if you approve of someone he won't.
LOL...yeah, my wife and I were discussing that, but my daughter figures we'll all just be "subtle" and see how things progress...
Those Peta people once ,during a special permit doe season around us in Quabbin water supply, set themselves up walking around with antlers.... They were asking to be shot and very lucky no one did. Smart folks.
Brilliant! When I lived up north, some well meaning imbeciles decided to save some bears during bear season...in trying to grab a cub, to save it from the hunters, some ended up in the hospital, and got the mama bear shot...doubt that was the original intent, though...
Another smart move they did near here, was to break into this ferret factory, (Not that I agree to that either) but they broke in and let all the ferrets go. Oh yeah those guys went on to be some dogs delicious lunch. I know ferrets can survive in the wild but these poor guys never left the cage.
THAT'S incredibly sad...
Ohhh, it makes me furious!!!!
Go Ted!!!
Ted Nugent? He's as big a jerk as the PETA folks! I'm thinking a point halfway between is a better answer.
So anyway Terry, go on being super nice to the girlfriend and she will move on her merry way.
Prefer to avoid the little ding-a-ling, but I will continue to be polite to her...and only offer popcorn.
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Angi said:I think her views are off, but most 18 year olds are. My husband the ultra conservative CFO was a democrat at 18.
TylerStewart said:Angi said:I think her views are off, but most 18 year olds are. My husband the ultra conservative CFO was a democrat at 18.
I think many teenager's views from high school into and through college are "off." Then they get kicked out of their parent's house, get a job, start paying taxes and many of them turn conservative.
Tom said:TylerStewart said:Angi said:I think her views are off, but most 18 year olds are. My husband the ultra conservative CFO was a democrat at 18.
I think many teenager's views from high school into and through college are "off." Then they get kicked out of their parent's house, get a job, start paying taxes and many of them turn conservative.
I have seen this...a lot.
And Terry, Ted is one of my favorite people. I'd like to hang out with him as much as Richard Fife.
Terry Allan Hall said:Tom said:TylerStewart said:Angi said:I think her views are off, but most 18 year olds are. My husband the ultra conservative CFO was a democrat at 18.
I think many teenager's views from high school into and through college are "off." Then they get kicked out of their parent's house, get a job, start paying taxes and many of them turn conservative.
I have seen this...a lot.
And Terry, Ted is one of my favorite people. I'd like to hang out with him as much as Richard Fife.
Fife, the herpetologist, is pretty cool, and I, too, would like to hang out w/ him.
Nugent, the draft-dodger/child-molester/racist/attention-wh*re/musical has-been...not so much.
But this is the Debatable section of the forum, so it's ok for us to "agree to disagree" on some things, right?
Tom said:Terry Allan Hall said:Tom said:TylerStewart said:Angi said:I think her views are off, but most 18 year olds are. My husband the ultra conservative CFO was a democrat at 18.
I think many teenager's views from high school into and through college are "off." Then they get kicked out of their parent's house, get a job, start paying taxes and many of them turn conservative.
I have seen this...a lot.
And Terry, Ted is one of my favorite people. I'd like to hang out with him as much as Richard Fife.
Fife, the herpetologist, is pretty cool, and I, too, would like to hang out w/ him.
Nugent, the draft-dodger/child-molester/racist/attention-wh*re/musical has-been...not so much.
But this is the Debatable section of the forum, so it's ok for us to "agree to disagree" on some things, right?
Yes it is.
firework said:This is the way I think about it: your tortoise trained YOU using a bell by rewarding you a big scene of tortoise gathering. They like the bell sound and want YOU do it for them at dinner.
moswen said:They may get a mental image of them standing up ontop of the world with a gold medal because they're awesome... who knows...
firework said:I think "if animals should be kept by people as pets" is a more valid discussion than “If it’s alright pets learned something about their ownersâ€Â, because the “exploitation†comes from the very fact that the animals are intelligent beings, they will always learn about their environment. If their environment involves people, they will learn people’s behavior and respond to it.
I guess it’s hard to “exploit†a plant, because it doesn’t think as much as animals do. It’s also hard NOT to “exploit†a dog even given the greatest freedom, it just figures out.
This is the way I think about it: your tortoise trained YOU using a bell by rewarding you a big scene of tortoise gathering. They like the bell sound and want YOU do it for them at dinner.