Leopard ID required please

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SulcataPardalis

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Hi,

I have always assumed my leopards to be s.p.babcocki

Yesterday three babies hatched from a clutch and had a hint of the double spot on the scutes that I have read indicates s.p.pardalis

I am 100% certain mine aren't - is this just an anomaly.

As you can see from the photos, it is only just present in two of them, but quite pronounced in the other.

The final three photos are from a different female. These hatched on the same day.

These ones are quite domed, and much smaller than those mentioned previous, which are quite flat and significantly bigger than this clutch.

Thanks for looking.

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Looks like your adults have some South African genetics in them. For all intents and purposes, I would consider them just babcocki though.

Any pictures of the adults that produced these? These hatchlings look very cool.
 

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Really good looking hatchlings. I see some p.pardalis in all of them. Have we seen pictures of the parents? These should be very easy to sell since they're so attractive.
 

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Sadly, this is the state of leopards in the US. For many years people have just thrown any and all leopards from all over their range in to the same pens and allowed them to breed. It is very difficult to find any that are known to be "pure", and out of a known, traceable source.

This won't hurt anything as far as your babies go. They should still grow up to be healthy, normal individuals. And they will still be gorgeous looking leopard tortoises.
 

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The last two are incredibly unique. I would love to see the parents also. Can you post pics of them?
 

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This is the female that laid the two dotted hatchings.

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This is the female that laid the light coloured hatchlings.

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And this is most likely suspect for the dad.
 

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Going strictly by pattern, I would say that the male is most likely part gpp. The middle one looks all babcocki. The first pic could go either way. Do any of them have black lines on the plastron?
 

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SulcataPardalis said:
And here she is laying the eggs.

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I keep staring at this picture waiting for the egg to drop into the hole she dug... :D
 

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Thanks for posting the pics. The male sure is a lot lighter. Whatever they are, they sure produced some unique babies.
 
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