Bingo. This is Taro. Deontay you were real close. On the pastrom the second pair of scutes meet in the center on the black (emys phayeri} while on the brown (emys emys} they don't.
LOL Wow Deontay was close, he'll be proud to hear that! I have to say that most of the different types of torts we see are just from browsing Kingsnake obsessively! LOL!