New law to take effect in Nevada

[Kapidolo Farms]

new Nevada law limits tortoise ownership

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/n...ail&utm_term=0_152540a5e7-5b5876e484-72404353

I read this a few times, and still don't get it, Doug Nielsen (quoted in the article) states it will reduce efforts by officials in one sentence, and says it will take over 80 to 100 years to be effective.

In the intervening time the very problem the seek to solve will be exacerbated by people worried they will get some sort of fine or punishment, without regard to that probably not being the case, and dumping their animals.

Also in the mean time actual habitat will be reduced, no doubt in my mind with that presumption, so as one CDT researcher once said at a symposium, they are being managed to death.

Will

 

[mctlong]

RE: new Nevada law limits tortoise ownership

..... so as one CDT researcher once said at a symposium, they are being managed to death.

Agree.

 

[AustinASU]

RE: new Nevada law limits tortoise ownership

..... so as one CDT researcher once said at a symposium, they are being managed to death.

Agree.

Best quote to date.

 

[Kapidolo Farms]

Well then to me more precise.

Lowe, CH. 1990. Are we killing the Desert Tortoise with Love, Science and Management?
Page 84-106. In: Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Turtle & Tortoises: Conservation and Captive Husbandry, Chapman University August 9-12, 1990. Editors Kent R. Beaman, Fred Capraso, Sean McKeown, Marc D. Graff.

Abstract:
Pro-tortoise and anti-tortoise activities by man the endangered species are discussed. It is concluded that the continued presence of wild desert tortoise populations to the end of the next century and beyond, is dependent on a single unequivcable pro-tortoise activity: large tract land acquisition that is endowed with armed protection in perpetuity - - for centuries. Advertisement, education, laboratory and field studies, conservation biology, conventional "recovery" plans, conventional population survey and monitoring, veterinary medicine, predator control, salvage, nursery, adoption, relocation, and others in love, science, and management are seriously questioned as valid activities in terms of benefitting wild desert tortoise, throughout this and following centuries. Evolutionary distinctions between subspecies, and between the sexes in behavior, structure, and environment are noted in discussion on the thorn-forest legacy of the desert tortoise and on the question, is the tail wagging the desert tortoise? Environmental and medical hypotheses, and the "problem" and the "solution" regarding the upper respiratory tract disease syndrome (URTDS), are examined. Subgenera and subspecies are noted in a brief discussion on the systematic and nomenclature of Gopherus (Xerobates) agassizii Cooper, 1986.

This is one of the most thought provoking 'talks' I have ever heard.

Will