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Is this a Yellowfoot?

Discussion in 'Redfoot and yellowfoot tortoises' started by ZEROPILOT, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. ZEROPILOT

    ZEROPILOT Well-Known Member TFO Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Someone has contacted me about a trade for one of my male Redfoot.
    They claim this is a female Yellowfoot. But to me, it looks like a super dry and beat up Red.
    Please. Your thoughts.

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    ZEROPILOT Well-Known Member TFO Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    The marks on the shell are some sort of wound.
    But from what I have no idea
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    ZEROPILOT Well-Known Member TFO Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Yours has the two vertical bumps on the nose, just like my yellowfoot. Plastron looks similar too. Although, there is a tiny tiny triangle on the tip, which makes three. Which I believe would make it a redfoot. Hopefully others will chime in!
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  5. Adrian Tufton

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    What are those four wounds in the fourth picture? I'm sure Tortadise could confirm
    the species and the four scutes that are white. If he lets you know by personal
    message Zero, if you don't mind, please update your thread.
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    Yvonne G Old Timer TFO Admin 5 Year Member Platinum Supporter

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    What a nice-looking tortoise. I would say yes, it's a YF tortoise, but, like Meganolvt, am a little confused by the small triangular spot just in front of the two elongated spots above the nose. But the shell looks YF.
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    I'd vote YF
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    It's a yellowfoot Ed
  9. ZEROPILOT

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    Thanks.
    Rather than start a whole new pen devoted to Yellowfooteds, I think I'll have to pass on the offer.
    I'll contact the person today and let them know that I'm not interested.
    On my phone, the photos that they sent me looked red on the legs.
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    It looks like a yellow to me Ed. If your not having any males is not keeping her with your reds an option?
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    Yellow-foot, C. denticulata. Nice color too. Clearly needs/wants to be kept in a more humid environment though.
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    I think having them live together is frowned upon.
    Reds with Yellows
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    Does this one look like a male to anyone?
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    It may be frowned upon by The Tortoise Gestapo, but the reality is that the two species are commonly found together in natural habitat in Brazil, Suriname and Guyana. In fact, they are often found literally in the same burrows.
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    Well said that man.
    Carl, why do you think we don't see hybrids in nature, or do we?
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    I've heard rumors of hook-ups, but nothing more.
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    I was wondering when we hear about red x yellows in captivity if it's because they aren't given a choice. Do the males get sexually frustrated and eventually copulate with anything. Where as in the wild they have the option and stick with the same preferred species.
    Obviously if zeropilot is only keeping females then it's not a problem.
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    cdmay Well-Known Member 5 Year Member

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    Thanks for the kind words.
    The reason why hybrids don't exist in nature is because the two species have developed complex and largely unknown (to we humans) ways of telling just who is who. There are olfactory, visual, and behavioral ques that have kept them apart.
    We could look at the numerous 'confusing fall warblers' of the birding world that migrate from the N.E. down through Florida and into the tropics and ask, "Why don't they all hybridize, since they all look basically the same and live in the same places?"
    There are many intricate puzzles in the natural world that we simply don't have answers to. Anyone who tries to convince themselves that they have all the answers is just inviting embarrassment.
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    Fellow birder?
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    @ZEROPILOT. Totally off topic Ed, when you are only left with females will you still be incubating eggs to find out how long fertility lasts for without the presence of a male?
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