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I'm sorry it makes you feel bad cause you where just trying to help the tort from getting hurt by the dog !
I just introduced myself , but then.....
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Angel Carrion
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Oh no I don't feel bad about trying to help the tort. I feel bad about how I expressed my disbelief and anger towards her grandmother.
I agree less bashing of the grandparents would have been nice. I do think though, without her knowing it, she set the tone for that.
Angel Carrion
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Yes, I agree.
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Has anyone here had a grandmother that wasn't just a little bit out of touch?
The good news is that she stayed.
The good news is that she stayed.
Great thread!
It is important to get as much info to the new members as quickly as possible as some of them won't come back.
If something they read here sticks in their minds, it was worth it.
I know that information overload and seemingly critical posts can also chase away some members, but the alternative, of saying Shelly is a beautiful tortoise and welcome to the forum when it's obvious there are problems, is not going to help the tortoise or the owner in the long run.
We can't just sit quiet when someone has too small an enclosure, coiled bulbs, red lights, dry or the wrong substrate, drowning hazard water bowls, dogs in the enclosure,two Russian males in an enclosure together, tortoises walking the house and being fed Mc Donalds, it would be wrong not to say something.
We just have to be more patient, even when we're answering the same question for the 777th time or to the same person for the 5th time.
Everyday we save tortoise lives on this forum and make the lives of others better.
Everyday the word spreads a little bit further.
We can change the world, guys.
It is important to get as much info to the new members as quickly as possible as some of them won't come back.
If something they read here sticks in their minds, it was worth it.
I know that information overload and seemingly critical posts can also chase away some members, but the alternative, of saying Shelly is a beautiful tortoise and welcome to the forum when it's obvious there are problems, is not going to help the tortoise or the owner in the long run.
We can't just sit quiet when someone has too small an enclosure, coiled bulbs, red lights, dry or the wrong substrate, drowning hazard water bowls, dogs in the enclosure,two Russian males in an enclosure together, tortoises walking the house and being fed Mc Donalds, it would be wrong not to say something.
We just have to be more patient, even when we're answering the same question for the 777th time or to the same person for the 5th time.
Everyday we save tortoise lives on this forum and make the lives of others better.
Everyday the word spreads a little bit further.
We can change the world, guys.
Alaskamike
Well-Known Member
Myself - I prefer bunt. Get to the point , I can take it. But everyone is different. Some people are more concerned with their feelings and perceived insult than facts and good solid advice.
If I am told " Your substrata is wrong , sand is an impaction danger & won't hold moisture " that makes perfect sense to me. I'd rather that than ....
" I know you've probably been advised by someone else , a pet store, or a book that sand makes the best substrata, but we've found that sometimes it gets ingested with the food and can cause impactions. Not that I'm saying YOUR baby tortoise will eat it , just that it's possible and there are several other good alternatives... You could try ....."
Straight forward answers and opinions are good. At the same time diplomacy is important Especially to some more sensitive people.
It was said by several in this thread - we advise because we care.
I believe that is the bottom line.
If I am told " Your substrata is wrong , sand is an impaction danger & won't hold moisture " that makes perfect sense to me. I'd rather that than ....
" I know you've probably been advised by someone else , a pet store, or a book that sand makes the best substrata, but we've found that sometimes it gets ingested with the food and can cause impactions. Not that I'm saying YOUR baby tortoise will eat it , just that it's possible and there are several other good alternatives... You could try ....."
Straight forward answers and opinions are good. At the same time diplomacy is important Especially to some more sensitive people.
It was said by several in this thread - we advise because we care.
I believe that is the bottom line.
See, I concur 100% with this. My regular cleaning may be lacking, but the important things, temps-humidity-substrate-food are all good and 100% solid based.
Angel Carrion
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I am the same. Don't be subtle with me, I won't catch it. You want to say something, be blunt.
