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Do not buy from petsmart or petco

Discussion in 'Debatable Topics' started by Digger&Blinky, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. KevinGG

    KevinGG Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you're overthinking it. I was thinking the same thing, but was scared off by the logistics. I'm glad to hear it has worked in certain instances.

    Like most things, I think the best course is for someone to just start. Begin by writing a care sheet that addresses the above concerns. Difficult part is figuring out guidelines that are correct, yet are still enticing enough for a chain store to adopt. Would there even be an incentive for them to read it? For the sake of my thought process, let's say yes for now. This could then be presented to people who would give it some credibility and feedback. Vets, turtle/tortoise conservation groups, breeders, etc. Could even be presented to Josh. Certainly, something on the guide that read: backed by the TSA, TC, TTPG, TurtleRoom, TortoiseForum (home to such and such number of chelonian keepers worldwide), and x number of vets would give them better reason to consider it. Obviously, this needs more thought, but let's keep talking about it.
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    Kevin, I'm glad we followed this through. Thank you again for explaining your POV so well. While we may not agree on all points, we would both like to see things improve at these two pet store chains. I am friends with a couple of Petco managers, and this conversation has inspired me to take them to task. They both know that those pamphlets are not great, but they seem powerless to change the corporate policies and are bound to follow them. Other than voting with the almighty dollar, I'd like to ask them to help me figure out the best way(s) to get through to the people who set the policy.
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    KevinGG Well-Known Member

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    Thank you Tom. Please keep us posted on this. I'd be very happy to help in any capacity.
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    Working for one of the two mentioned big box pet stores this video is a lie. While that supplier may not treat their animals well we do not and would not purchase from them. If animals come in or become sick in our care they go to the vet regardless of cost. If an animal does come in sick we do not sell it until it has recovered. Animal care is very strict and taken very seriously. We are regulated by the usda and purchase turtles and tortoises from the "worlds largest producer of salmonella free turtles".
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    Some people that work at these stores seem to not agree with you.
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    That is a great example of a bad apple, assuming it's true and not staged they are not following policy.
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    That video seems really far fetched to me. It looks totally staged. Still, there are plenty of stupid and inept people in the world that could have made a mistake like that. Petco is capable of hiring a moron just the same as any other company in the world.

    If some Petco employee accidentally threw that lizard in the trash, then they should be dealt with accordingly. That's a big mistake. Who here reading this has not made a mistake at some point in their life. I have. Plenty of times. If that is in fact what happened here, and an individual employee made a stupid error, I would hardly damn an entire company with thousands of employees because of it. How many here would stand up to the kind of scrutiny that these pet stores are under nowadays?
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    And how many times have we seen someone come here and ask if their tortoise is dead? It's sometimes pretty hard to tell.
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    Wow, y'all have debated this topic thoroughly and well so I won't add to it. I WILL say that Petco does care for it's animals - I bought a rat from them and it turned out to be sick. So I went to the store, talked to the manager, and Petco set up a vet appointment for me and my rat the same day. They paid for the visit and medications (thank goodness, because it was a $200 bill).

    If they are willing to do that for a $7 rat, I think they would do the same for their other critters.

    Just wanted to share my experience, since the original post was very bold and encompassing. The rat, Cleopatra, has fully recovered after treatment. Also, I had no problems with the other rat I bought from them.
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