1,5 years old istar won't eat

Efje

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Hello, now I'm the newest in the forum.
I've got istar also, about 1,5 years old.
Got it from pet store late 2015.
Gave him fumak & oppuntia cactus rarely.
Put him in tank with 50 watt basking lamp both uva & uvb, about 5 hours daily.
Have him soak in warm water around 10 min in the morning.
However in last few days, I think it got sick, it won't eat & just sleep, already 3 days like this.
Shall I have a new thread to discuss ?
Pls help
 

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You put him in a tank for 5 hours daily? Or he lives in the tank and the light is on only 5 hours daily?
What size enclosure, what are the temps, basking temp and all over temp? What is the substrate your using and what is the diet your feeding and how often do you feed? How big is he?
 

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He lives in the tank & the light is on 5 hourrs daily.
Attached photo for hos enclosure.
Diet : fumak & sometime opuntia cactus. Once in a day.
1 year & a half good appetite, only in last few days won't eat at all.
IMG-20170330-WA0001.jpg IMG-20170330-WA0000.jpg
 

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You didn't give all the info I asked for. The paper is no good. The temps I'm sure is no good just by looking at the pic and there is not humidity. Everything needs to be greatly improved including diet.
Your tort needs a substrate like coconut coir or orchid bark. The basking temp needs to be 95-100. If he can't warm up under a 95-100 temp he can't digest his food properly. He needs humidity around 80% with an over all temp of 80 degrees. He needs many more items added to his diet.
Please answer all the questions I asked so we can help you.
@Markw84 may be able to help more
 

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@Efje They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I don't know if that translates well to your language, but you can see the differences

Compare your photo of how your tortoise is kept to this photo of mine...

IMG_5139.JPG

Star tortoises in captivity need a stable, warm, and humid environment where they also feel secure. A substrate that will hold moisture, but not get moldy or muddy, and places to hide and feel more natural. I use the 80/80 rule. 80F (27C) as a minimum temperature, and 80% humidity. They will thrive in those conditions. When we live in an area the tortoises naturally occur, we often draw false conclusions of what optimal conditions are. In their native areas, tortoises live in conditions that quite frankly, are not optimal at all. So they hide, and go dormant, (Brumate/hibernate/aestivate) depending upon the species, much of the year. Those aren't ideal conditions. They are finding ways to avoid those conditions. In fact, many tortoise species actually thrive and grow in "optimal" conditions perhaps 3-4 months out of the year.

In captivity, we do not want to duplicate the harsh conditions that in the wild they can find ways to avoid. In captivity, I find it better to duplicate the conditions that happen much less frequently in the wild - the conditions where they thrive. We when duplicate some of the harsher conditions we find tortoise in, and then try to provide them with plentiful food and water, when in the wild they would be aestivating, we now start seeing problems. Pyramiding, lethargy, loss of appetite, easily succumbing to illness...

PLEASE read the care sheet I am linking here. It is written for sulcatas and leopards, but stars will thrive in the same conditions. Set up your stars this way. As much as possible try to duplicate what you see in my picture of my enclosure. Your tortoise will improve if it is not too late. Come back with any additional questions, and good luck! You have a beautiful tortoise!

http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/
 

Efje

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You didn't give all the info I asked for. The paper is no good. The temps I'm sure is no good just by looking at the pic and there is not humidity. Everything needs to be greatly improved including diet.
Your tort needs a substrate like coconut coir or orchid bark. The basking temp needs to be 95-100. If he can't warm up under a 95-100 temp he can't digest his food properly. He needs humidity around 80% with an over all temp of 80 degrees. He needs many more items added to his diet.
Please answer all the questions I asked so we can help you.
@Markw84 may be able to help more
Thanks for the response.
Temp : yes, 95-100
Diet : all this long have been tried variety like u said even mazuri but he always choose fumak & cactus.
In this sick (flu I guess) condition still ok with humid substrate or better dry ?.
I live in Indonesia by the way.
Current condition still won't eat.
Try to put in some water through pipet
 

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@Efje They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I don't know if that translates well to your language, but you can see the differences

Compare your photo of how your tortoise is kept to this photo of mine...

View attachment 203579

Star tortoises in captivity need a stable, warm, and humid environment where they also feel secure. A substrate that will hold moisture, but not get moldy or muddy, and places to hide and feel more natural. I use the 80/80 rule. 80F (27C) as a minimum temperature, and 80% humidity. They will thrive in those conditions. When we live in an area the tortoises naturally occur, we often draw false conclusions of what optimal conditions are. In their native areas, tortoises live in conditions that quite frankly, are not optimal at all. So they hide, and go dormant, (Brumate/hibernate/aestivate) depending upon the species, much of the year. Those aren't ideal conditions. They are finding ways to avoid those conditions. In fact, many tortoise species actually thrive and grow in "optimal" conditions perhaps 3-4 months out of the year.

In captivity, we do not want to duplicate the harsh conditions that in the wild they can find ways to avoid. In captivity, I find it better to duplicate the conditions that happen much less frequently in the wild - the conditions where they thrive. We when duplicate some of the harsher conditions we find tortoise in, and then try to provide them with plentiful food and water, when in the wild they would be aestivating, we now start seeing problems. Pyramiding, lethargy, loss of appetite, easily succumbing to illness...

PLEASE read the care sheet I am linking here. It is written for sulcatas and leopards, but stars will thrive in the same conditions. Set up your stars this way. As much as possible try to duplicate what you see in my picture of my enclosure. Your tortoise will improve if it is not too late. Come back with any additional questions, and good luck! You have a beautiful tortoise!

http://www.tortoiseforum.org/threads/how-to-raise-a-healthy-sulcata-or-leopard-version-2-0.79895/
Thanks & appreciate for the attachment & links
 

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