I got 2.2 of these this year and had to sell all of them. I was very bummed out about this and thought I had made a big mistake. I did it to get something really amazing but have been thinking about them all along. This male ended up going to my best friend in Miami and ended up getting traded to another good friend in PA. I just received him back on breeding loan and really regret getting rid of him. This is such a cool turtle, I'm lucky to have another shot at making some. These are one of the prettiest turtles in person, thanks for looking!