Suggestions Needed for New Greek (Indoor) Enclosure.

[Larry C.]

Ok I'm gonna be setting up and indoor enclosure for a baby Greek. I wanna set up something like this

What size plastic bin is perfect? I think I'm going with soil (untreated of course) or should I use something else? Whats the best place to find the bins? And could use some suggestions for plants and hides. Oh and where is a good place to find those smooth flat rocks?

Lots of questions, sorry.

Thx

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Sorry forgot to ask what is the exact light I need. I would perfer the less fixtures or lamps the better. I know some lights are multi-purpose.

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Is there anyway to get by using only one clamp lamp?

 

[heyprettyrave]

you could always use an old book case or dresser too

 

[jeffbens0n]

You shouldn't use pepsi max it's bad for tortoises, use coke zero.

 

[pdrobber]

you can get slate almost anywhere, like a home depot or similar store. a book case is a good idea, that's what I use. a flower pot on its side half buried works well as a hide, as do half logs. you may be able to get away with using one MVB in a ceramic fixture on a lamp stand (not actually clamped on the side of the enclosure as the MVB needs to be straight down, not on a slant, and the stand with the cord wrapped around it is more secure than a clamp only)

Depending on the temp of the area it will be, and night time temps, you may be able to get away with just one MVB, not needing another light or CHE for extra heat at nights or the other end of the enclosure. Someone that knows Greeks better will know more.

 

[dmmj]

I like old bookcases (bigger) and cement mixing tubs, most bookcases can be bought online or in a yard sale for next to nothing.

 

[expiredgummiworm]

could you guys post pictures of your enclosures? that would help

 

[ChiKat]

This is where Nelson lived as a hatchling. I bought this container from Home Depot.

Just before he turned a year old I moved him to a 4x2 wooden enclosure that I built, and lined with plastic. The wood is pine and I purchased it from Home Depot.

A bin like the one you pictured has a good amount of floor space, but it's hard to keep the heat/humidity in with the sides being so low. Christmas tree bins are ideal, because they are long AND have tall sides, but those are difficult to find, especially this time of year.
You may have luck on Craigslist if you look for wooden bookcases. Remove the shelves and line with plastic, and it's similar to the tort table I made.

I really like coconut coir as a substrate for hatchlings, because it's soft and easy for them to burrow. I mixed Nelson's with sand initially, but found the sand to be irritating. It was better when I mixed the coir with plain top soil. Now I just use plain organic top soil in his indoor enclosure. Some people on here like to use Aspen bedding (NOT pine or cedar, which are toxic!) for their Greeks, but make sure you have a humid hide then, since you can't get the substrate wet. I prefer coco coir and/or top soil, and a lot of people on here like to use cypress mulch.

 

[SnakeyeZ]

Looks great - but do you ever have problems with your tortoise trying to eat the fake plants? I have fake plants hanging around the ridge of my enclosure but not close enough for him to try and chomp out. He does try and reach for them though.

 

[ChiKat]

I watched him carefully when I first put them in. He may have taken a test nibble at first to see if they were real, but he hasn't ever touched them since. He likes to plow through them, push them over, be destructive

 

[SnakeyeZ]

I watched him carefully when I first put them in. He may have taken a test nibble at first to see if they were real, but he hasn't ever touched them since. He likes to plow through them, push them over, be destructive

Right on... I just don't trust my guy lol.

Tortoises are great rearrangers... I have cactus bone in ours and he moves that all around too.

 

[Larry C.]

This is where Nelson lived as a hatchling. I bought this container from Home Depot.

Just before he turned a year old I moved him to a 4x2 wooden enclosure that I built, and lined with plastic. The wood is pine and I purchased it from Home Depot.

A bin like the one you pictured has a good amount of floor space, but it's hard to keep the heat/humidity in with the sides being so low. Christmas tree bins are ideal, because they are long AND have tall sides, but those are difficult to find, especially this time of year.
You may have luck on Craigslist if you look for wooden bookcases. Remove the shelves and line with plastic, and it's similar to the tort table I made.

I really like coconut coir as a substrate for hatchlings, because it's soft and easy for them to burrow. I mixed Nelson's with sand initially, but found the sand to be irritating. It was better when I mixed the coir with plain top soil. Now I just use plain organic top soil in his indoor enclosure. Some people on here like to use Aspen bedding (NOT pine or cedar, which are toxic!) for their Greeks, but make sure you have a humid hide then, since you can't get the substrate wet. I prefer coco coir and/or top soil, and a lot of people on here like to use cypress mulch.

How do you feel about a cement mix tray?

Thx

 

[Larry C.]

Alright ppl whats the best substrate for Greeks I search and search and never see the same answer...

 

[ChiKat]

I have heard of several people using cement mixing trays- I think they're great!
They do grow fast, so have a plan for upgrading the enclosure eventually.

 

[Larry C.]

I have heard of several people using cement mixing trays- I think they're great!
They do grow fast, so have a plan for upgrading the enclosure eventually.

Already got one yesterday now just looking for best substrate for Greeks.

 

[ChiKat]

I don't have a Greek, but hopefully someone will come along and answer your question soon! Otherwise you could always start a new thread and ask in the Greek section.
When are you getting your baby?

 

[Larry C.]

I don't have a Greek, but hopefully someone will come along and answer your question soon! Otherwise you could always start a new thread and ask in the Greek section.
When are you getting your baby?

Its about a week or two old I think like in 3-4 weeks.

 

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[lynnedit]

people seem to use a variety of substrates:
Cypress mulch
Organic topsoil
Organic topsoil 70%/playsand 30%
Aspen

My Russians (similar) love to burrow at night in Aspen (smaller area with hide), with Cypress mulch and topsoil or fine Orchid bark in the main area so it holds a bit more moisture. Nice for them to have choices.