So, today I woke up to a very unpleasant surprise from Nigel, but I will give back story first.
Yesterday, I gave Nigel avocado for the first time. I saw other threads on here, where torts really enjoyed it, and I thought since Nigel could use a little bit more variation in his diet, it would be a good idea.
Does Avocado usually have an effect similar to pumpkin? Because that is the effect it had on Nigel. This morning I work up (at 10:27 or so) and Nigel was basking and around him were 5-7 spots of diarrhea.
Now, in the mornings, Nigel basks fully awake and waiting for his meal. If his plate isn't down right away, he will chase my hands around (very vigorously) for his breakfast. Today, I said Hello, and good morning and what not, and Nigel didn't even open his eyes. He was almost all the way indrawn as well, which is not normal.
When I reached in to start spot cleaning, he jerked in surprise, and withdrew totally. I kept talking to him, telling him it was just me, and rubbed his shell lightly. He didn't respond, instead staying indrawn. I cleaned up his enclosure and added new aspen, and Nigel stayed in one place the whole time.
I picked him up, just for a closer look, and he didn't move much, and stayed indrawn in his shell. Usually, as soon as he is out, he's stretching every limb and wanting to be set down. Today, calm as a rock.
I also found what a THOUGHT was urates. Stuff was so mixed around, it was hard to tell. But it was mainly white, but tinged green a little from his loose stool. It didn't smell like feces, and was also gritty. I have noticed the passing of urates for the last two weeks or so (before that I hadn't been seeing them) and they have been of normal consistency.
So this morning, fearing dehydration, I filled his tub with some nice warm water (and his water conditioner) and soaked him in the bathroom (which was still warm from my shower) for about 5-7 mins. He didn't really try to get out of the water, and I had the tub covered with a towel to keep it dark and warm. He didn't pass any urates or stool in the water.
I dried him off and placed him back in his hot side, and he walked until his plasteron was almost touching the back wall,and stayed indrawn in his shell. I got his breakfast ready (spring mix dusted w/ calcium) and set his plate down in its usual spot on his cool side and talked to him, usually he will respond, and come running for breakfast. But today he gave no response.
When I left at 10:55, he was still facing the wall, unresponsive.
Around 11:10, my BF picked him up and moved him infront of his plate (he's worried too. ) and Nigel just nibbled at one leaf and went back to the hot side.
Ten minutes later, Reid moved the plate over to the hot side, and Nigel ate a few more bites, and then went back to ignoring his salad.
I have NEVER seen him not eat his dinner. Or at the very least, only what he doesn't like is left on the plate. I'm reallllllly worried. He ate his full helping yesterday (he had only about 1/4 of the avocado too, and it was a small one)
Now, I'm home from work and class and he is not in his usual basking spot either. Usually he stays in his hot corner (the one closest to the spot the lamp makes) but today, he is way off to the side, huddling against his log hide.
Another thing is that Nigel ALWAYS responds to our voices. If we start talking to him, he perks up and comes towards us. Whenever I reach in there to adjust the thermometer, he is running up looking for treats.
Today, he is almost fearful. If he sees us, he withdraws. He was semi awake a few minutes ago, and when i reached in (about a foot away from him) he slowly pulled his head back in.
I'm really scared. I don't know what's wrong. His temps are all right. its 80's in the darker end of the hot side. High 90's under the lamp, and about 75 on the cool side.
His night temps don't drop below like 62F.
Last night he was also buried in a different spot, much closer to the front of the enclosure, and moved a little bit at around 12:45-1:20 AM.
His eyes are clear, his nose is clear. No bubbles, no discharge. But he looks tired, if that makes any sense.
Someone please help. This is not like him AT ALL and its scaring me. Was the avocado a really bad idea? Because I am just kicking myself.
Yesterday, I gave Nigel avocado for the first time. I saw other threads on here, where torts really enjoyed it, and I thought since Nigel could use a little bit more variation in his diet, it would be a good idea.
Does Avocado usually have an effect similar to pumpkin? Because that is the effect it had on Nigel. This morning I work up (at 10:27 or so) and Nigel was basking and around him were 5-7 spots of diarrhea.
Now, in the mornings, Nigel basks fully awake and waiting for his meal. If his plate isn't down right away, he will chase my hands around (very vigorously) for his breakfast. Today, I said Hello, and good morning and what not, and Nigel didn't even open his eyes. He was almost all the way indrawn as well, which is not normal.
When I reached in to start spot cleaning, he jerked in surprise, and withdrew totally. I kept talking to him, telling him it was just me, and rubbed his shell lightly. He didn't respond, instead staying indrawn. I cleaned up his enclosure and added new aspen, and Nigel stayed in one place the whole time.
I picked him up, just for a closer look, and he didn't move much, and stayed indrawn in his shell. Usually, as soon as he is out, he's stretching every limb and wanting to be set down. Today, calm as a rock.
I also found what a THOUGHT was urates. Stuff was so mixed around, it was hard to tell. But it was mainly white, but tinged green a little from his loose stool. It didn't smell like feces, and was also gritty. I have noticed the passing of urates for the last two weeks or so (before that I hadn't been seeing them) and they have been of normal consistency.
So this morning, fearing dehydration, I filled his tub with some nice warm water (and his water conditioner) and soaked him in the bathroom (which was still warm from my shower) for about 5-7 mins. He didn't really try to get out of the water, and I had the tub covered with a towel to keep it dark and warm. He didn't pass any urates or stool in the water.
I dried him off and placed him back in his hot side, and he walked until his plasteron was almost touching the back wall,and stayed indrawn in his shell. I got his breakfast ready (spring mix dusted w/ calcium) and set his plate down in its usual spot on his cool side and talked to him, usually he will respond, and come running for breakfast. But today he gave no response.
When I left at 10:55, he was still facing the wall, unresponsive.
Around 11:10, my BF picked him up and moved him infront of his plate (he's worried too. ) and Nigel just nibbled at one leaf and went back to the hot side.
Ten minutes later, Reid moved the plate over to the hot side, and Nigel ate a few more bites, and then went back to ignoring his salad.
I have NEVER seen him not eat his dinner. Or at the very least, only what he doesn't like is left on the plate. I'm reallllllly worried. He ate his full helping yesterday (he had only about 1/4 of the avocado too, and it was a small one)
Now, I'm home from work and class and he is not in his usual basking spot either. Usually he stays in his hot corner (the one closest to the spot the lamp makes) but today, he is way off to the side, huddling against his log hide.
Another thing is that Nigel ALWAYS responds to our voices. If we start talking to him, he perks up and comes towards us. Whenever I reach in there to adjust the thermometer, he is running up looking for treats.
Today, he is almost fearful. If he sees us, he withdraws. He was semi awake a few minutes ago, and when i reached in (about a foot away from him) he slowly pulled his head back in.
I'm really scared. I don't know what's wrong. His temps are all right. its 80's in the darker end of the hot side. High 90's under the lamp, and about 75 on the cool side.
His night temps don't drop below like 62F.
Last night he was also buried in a different spot, much closer to the front of the enclosure, and moved a little bit at around 12:45-1:20 AM.
His eyes are clear, his nose is clear. No bubbles, no discharge. But he looks tired, if that makes any sense.
Someone please help. This is not like him AT ALL and its scaring me. Was the avocado a really bad idea? Because I am just kicking myself.