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Moved and continued from:
http://tortoiseforum.org/thread-16840-page-2.html
I will play in part.
Just wiki, simple to prove, Humans are monkeys, as tortoises are turtles.
RUSSIAN TORTOISE
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Reptilia
Order: Testudines
Suborder: Cryptodira - Turtle ancestor
Family: Testudinidae
Genus: Testudo (disputed)
Species: T. horsfieldii
+3 stages of classification between species Turt - Tort
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Reptilia
Order: Testudines - Turtle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Tortoise
HUMAN
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates - Monkey Ancestor
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens
+5 stages of classification between species Monk - Hum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates - Monkey Ancestor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/145038/Cryptodira
Once a new classification or sub category is established, it becomes a new species, described by a different name, if you investigate the divisions in the scientific classification, you clearly see, both humans and tortoises, share a common ancestor(with monkey and turtle) yet can still be called by such archaic names. However it describes nothing of the animal in question. The new species is so far removed from the old, it is an entirely new family of animal. A tortoise can no longer ever become a 'new world' turtle species again, because it will still carry the Testudinidae DNA. The Testudinidae is a type of tortoise, in the order Testudines. Humans are a type of homo sapiens, in the order Primate.
Describe how that is different.
Please excuse wiki use, I was not up for a credible search, but I picked information I believe to be correct.
Cheers
http://tortoiseforum.org/thread-16840-page-2.html
RichardS said:This is actually a great attitude for science. But the burden of evidence is now on you. Since conventional nomenclature tells us that the family Testudinidae (tortoises) is part of the order Testudines (turtles).
I will play in part.
Just wiki, simple to prove, Humans are monkeys, as tortoises are turtles.
RUSSIAN TORTOISE
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Reptilia
Order: Testudines
Suborder: Cryptodira - Turtle ancestor
Family: Testudinidae
Genus: Testudo (disputed)
Species: T. horsfieldii
+3 stages of classification between species Turt - Tort
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Reptilia
Order: Testudines - Turtle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Tortoise
HUMAN
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates - Monkey Ancestor
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens
+5 stages of classification between species Monk - Hum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates - Monkey Ancestor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/145038/Cryptodira
Once a new classification or sub category is established, it becomes a new species, described by a different name, if you investigate the divisions in the scientific classification, you clearly see, both humans and tortoises, share a common ancestor(with monkey and turtle) yet can still be called by such archaic names. However it describes nothing of the animal in question. The new species is so far removed from the old, it is an entirely new family of animal. A tortoise can no longer ever become a 'new world' turtle species again, because it will still carry the Testudinidae DNA. The Testudinidae is a type of tortoise, in the order Testudines. Humans are a type of homo sapiens, in the order Primate.
Describe how that is different.
Please excuse wiki use, I was not up for a credible search, but I picked information I believe to be correct.
Cheers